![]() | Congressman Roscoe Bartlett's Peak Oil Special Order Speech May 1, 2008 | The Oil Drum | A Visit to the New Choren BTL Plant | ![]() |
The contents below are paid advertisements. Their appearance does not imply an endorsement by The Oil Drum.
“Most people spend more time and energy going around problems than in trying to solve them.”
—Henry Ford
Search The Oil Drum with Google
User login
Contact
- Content: editors at theoildrum dot com
- Tech support: support at theoildrum dot com
Personnel
- Editors: Prof. Goose, Heading Out, Stuart Staniford, Nate Hagens
- DrumBeat Editor: Leanan
- Contributors: ace, Engineer-Poet, Gail the Actuary, jeffvail, JoulesBurn, Khebab, Robert Rapier
- TOD:Local: Glenn
- TOD:Europe: Chris Vernon, Euan Mearns, Francois Cellier, Jerome a Paris, Luís de Sousa, Rembrandt, Rune Likvern, Ugo Bardi
- TOD:Canada: benk, Libelle
- TOD:ANZ: Big Gav, Phil Hart, aeldric
- Technician: Super G
Recently on TOD:World
TOD:Local
- Ask not what your next President can do, Ask what you can do for your tribe
- Summer Streets a Success!
- Plan for Hydro-Fracture Drilling for Unconventional Natural Gas in Upstate New York
TOD:Europe
- RAMseS: a new agricultural paradigm
- RAMseS: a new agricultural paradigm
- The First Wave Energy Farm of the World...It's About Time...
TOD:Canada
- In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
- Compressed Air Energy Storage - How viable is it?
- Oil Megaproject Update (July 2008)
TOD:ANZ
Peak Oil Primers
Blogroll
Energy Sites
- The Coming Global Oil Crisis
- Die Off
- Dry Dipstick
- Energy Bulletin
- From the Wilderness
- Life After the Oil Crash
- Peak Oil Crisis
- Peak Oil News and Message Boards
- Powerswitch
- Rigzone
- Matthew Simmons
- Wolf at the Door
Environment & Sustainability Sites
- The Daily Green
- EcoGeek
- Eco Street
- Green Car Congress
- Green Options
- green.alltop.com
- Gristmill
- RealClimate
- Sustainablog
- Treehugger
- WorldChanging
Blogs
- The Big Picture
- Casaubon's Book
- Cleantech Blog
- Clusterf
k Nation (Jim Kunstler) - The Cost of Energy
- David Strahan
- The Energy Blog
- Entropy Production
- European Tribune
- GraphOilology
- jeffvail.net
- Mobjectivist
- Peak Energy (Australia)
- Peak Energy (USA)
- R-Squared
- Resource Insights
Finance & Economics Blogs
- Calculated Risk
- Ecological Economics
- Econbrowser
- Environmental Economics
- Infectious Greed
- The Mess That Greenspan Made
- Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis
Organizations
License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.







GAIA Host Collective
Yeah - it really would be funny if I didn't have to live with the results, and could just observe from the outside. I think if it wasn't real, I would advocate for GWB to be eligible for re-election, just to see if it was truly possible to destroy such a great civilization and to see what such an epic collapse would look like.
Unfortunately, I do live here, so I'm voting for Obama.
The US system of government is hopelessly and terminally dysfunctional. It is only a matter of time before it is replaced.
That jingle keeps playing in my mind: "Sooner or later, you'll have Generals"
"Sooner or later, you'll have Generals" What do you think Obama's change message is all about? Of course, he'll change everything........ to a dictatorship. We'll all be serfs in the lands that our forefathers conquered.
A Cherokee or a Navajo would undoubtedly see a certain rough justice in that.
You mean you aren't already?
I think that consumerism is the glue that holds us together, without it we have no economy and no common purpose.
Great insight Futureseeker. Professor Jack Lessinger, a researcher on multigenerational changes in the commonly accepted American Dream stated something very similiar. His theory (which is very persuasive is that the standard American Dream radically changes every few generations as the old dream gets so overblown and destructive that a opposite American Dream arises to defeat and replace the old.
He calls the American Dream one we have been in since around 1900 the "Little King" for it's focus of "get it all - get it now", it's individualist focus, it's bond with cars and suburbia (every man's little kingdom), and it's focus on the short-term. Fortunately it has run way past it's prime (about 1960) and is now rapidly being replaced by a new American Dream. The new one is called the "Responsible Villager" and it is pretty much the opposite of the Little King.
His first book "Schizomania" focused on his theory and the rising Responsible Villager as a culture. You can still find it at:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0962518212/ref=dp_olp_2
The latest book is called "Transformations" and again explains the theory well but focuses more on new business people (called Responsible Capitalists) and their part in creating the new Responsible Villager american dream. You can see his site and book at: http://www.jacklessinger.com/
Below is an entry from his blog that fits your point....
I wish I could believe that. But people seem to be more materialistic than ever to me. Sure, they talk about climate change, but most don't do anything. Maybe the most committed will "shop green" - when the real solution is to shop less.
Consumerism as bad strikes me as one of those elitist value judgements that don't actually address any problems.
Thanks for the response Greg. You should check out "The Century of Self" which is by the BBC, here is the google video link to part 1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8953172273825999151 . It explains how the theories of freud were used to control the mob by turning them into consumers and thereby neutering them politically. It is a really fascinating and pertinent documentary.
With Mexico likely to export 200,000 b/d less each year until it stops being a net exporter i,e, 2011-12, we should stop treating OPEC so shabbily. We will be more dependent on OPEC in the near future. Venezuela, Nigeria, Angola plus KSA and other Mid East countries will have to be relied upon to replace the loss of Mexican oil and our own 2% depletion rate. As all of these countries use more and subsidize their own domestic oil consumption, it will be difficult enough for them to like and respect the US. If on the other hand they feel misused or not respected, as is the case now, well other growing economies will certainly step up and take all the oil for themselves and thank their good luck that the US has such poor leadership. Go Obama
I agree.
In the short term, my strategy would be to be as accomodating to KSA as I could be. Although, in Hillary's defense, I'm sure KSA knows she's BSing to get votes, and won't actually do anything about it.
In the long run, we need to be aggressive on demand; there's just no way around it.
I agree with being aggressive on demand. I think there is a lot of low hanging fruit to be had to reduce demand. Somehow we need to get the country on board...telling the truth wouldn't hurt. And as Leanan has said..Dubya the lame duck is the perfect person to tell the truth
I wouldn't count on it.
From big oil he came, to big oil he will return.
Don't expect the voice of the lord to come from that particular bush.
There is plenty of scope for energy saving in the US though, precisely because it is so inefficient.
European levels of energy use would reduce the US count by 50%.
Japan uses about 8 barrels per capita as opposed to ours and Canada's 27 barrels. It is not about inventing the wheel, it is more about getting out of the denial stage and getting to work.
And Harper has the same genes, unfortunately for Canadians.
Have you seen some of the green stuff at his ranch?
http://www.off-grid.net/index.php?p=680#more-680