<Wave/Geothermal - Energy Return on Investment (EROI) (Part 6 of 6)The Oil DrumDrumBeat: May 15, 2008>

78 comments on Peak Oil Media: Our President on Energy, Kunstler on Glenn Beck last night, and GWB Does Dr. Evil

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kyop on May 14, 2008 - 4:43pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Ah...ah...ah...Steven, you may not have noticed that ahm ah..ah...what they call a lame duck and even when ah...ah...was ah...hawk, I didn't do squat to formulate a comprehensive energy policy. We just ah...ah...need more supply.

Don't you worry though. Once Arlen Specter finishes investigating whether the New England Patriots videotaped football signals, he and the rest of Congress will get to work on a comprehensive energy policy, then solve the Iraq issue, then Social Security, then global warming, then health insurance, then....

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arraya on May 14, 2008 - 4:49pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Isn't it obvious at this point that Iraq is an energy policy. It goes along with getting more.

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Khebab on May 14, 2008 - 5:01pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Exactly right. Imagine for an instant that Saddam remained in power, with $120/barrel Bush would have no choice but negotiates and make concessions in order for Iraq to increase production! no way!

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Prof. Goose on May 14, 2008 - 5:03pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Ok, so he's a rational "perpetuate the growth paradigm" kind of Dr. Evil-doer...

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Will on May 14, 2008 - 8:16pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Come now... We could have repositioned Saddam as a good guy. It would have taken Rush and few pinheads to help, but they could have done it. Maybe Saddam could have pretended to water-board a few Qaeda guys for us or something.

We could have had the oil. The Iranians could have been thoroughly annoyed. The Israelis thoroughly pleased. We could have saved a mountain of bucks...

And GWB would have had the last laugh... since he would have out-Cheneyed Cheney by turning Saddam.

It would have been masterful realpolitik.

But no... we had to do it the hard way.

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Big Gav on May 15, 2008 - 7:38am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Maybe you should have been Secretary of State (or VP) 8 years ago and things would have worked out much better. That plan actually makes sense.

Of course, a lot of people who have made rather a lot of money out of the Iraq exercise wouldn't be so well off if it had been done that way, something I've often felt isn't a coincidence...

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JonL on May 15, 2008 - 9:46am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Rebrand Sadam? Like the Nazi, er, I mean, German Scientists who build our space program? Where's an Edward Bernaise when you need him?

Jon.

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calgarydude on May 14, 2008 - 5:27pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

George Bush has a "B&B" energy policy:

Bomb Iraq to grab their oil ...

... and when that doesn't work ...

Beg the Saudis, stupid sword dance, etc...

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Geckolizard on May 14, 2008 - 5:05pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Come on...

Solve Iraq, you solve energy.

Solve energy, and you solve Social Security AND health insurance (Since BOTH depend on an ever growing economy)

Solve energy and you can say screw it to global warming.

(But global warming will solve our Nat Gas problem since we won't have to heat our homes in the winter anymore)

Then, it'll be mining coal for another few hundred years to power our A/C year round... Not to mention power our battery powered cars, tractors and semis...

See, Shrubya Bush got 'er all planned out.

That's why the Crawford Ranch is off grid, self supporting, and well isolated from the rest of us folk... Yeee Haw!

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Dryki on May 14, 2008 - 10:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

And I read in Portland Magazine (not online) that the Bushes can expect a credit on their electric bill because of the wind turbine installation at Kennebunk estate.

Maine just passed an "Energy Corridor" bill allowing persons (they really mean corporations) to use emminent domain to acquire infrastructure. Perhaps People's Power should take over the windmill and the whole estate from those bastards. Sort of like those palaces in Iraq.

cfm in Gray, ME

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lakesideinvestor on May 15, 2008 - 12:02am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

The Kennedys will get the same credit in Massachusetts. And Al Gore is selling carbon credits on his mansion. I think he is growing trees in his basement. And how many jets does John Travolta own? I sure get tired of the elites telling me how to live.

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john15 on May 14, 2008 - 7:10pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Once Arlen Specter finishes investigating whether the New England Patriots videotaped football signals, he and the rest of Congress will get to work on a comprehensive energy policy

why is everyone crying about the gov't? why not start your own damn energy policy? it's not that hard. you can already see that at $125 barrel people are already starting.

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DRAGONDONK on May 15, 2008 - 12:36am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

exactly John. Personal plans are far more useful for conservation. The governemtn policy is all about how do we increase supply. Western government s are ideologically tied to free market economics so don't expec them to do anything useful. Markets and the profit motive will determine energy policy.

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