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First off, special thanks to greenish & Roger K for offering an eloquent defense and added context for the ideas I was trying to convey.
RE; the "Luddite" charge, anyone who has followed my posts here or elsewhere knows I am no science-hating Luddite. Nor did I say I wanted "all technological advances stopped". That is a complete fabrication and strawman argument. Far from it, I am a champion of science, and am what the devoutly religious would probably describe as a "secular humanist". I believe (contrary to some regulars here) that nuclear power --along with renewables (solar, wind, wave, geothermal, etc.) can, and probably will, be ramped up to offset most of the decline in FFs... eventually. However, there will be very real costs and unintended consequences of that scale of ramp-up. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Heading Out, you seem to be conflating "technological progress" with "population increases", as though one cannot advance without the other. You also seem to subscribe to the common misperception that technology is the ONLY solution to the problems being caused by overpopulation: soaring food/NRG costs, environmental destruction, and resource depletion. I fundamentally disagree with this view.
I believe we can actually have *more*, not less, technological progress with fewer people than more. In fact, the pace of technological progress can actually *increase* when we are not desperately devoting most of our resources and R&D in a vain attempt to keep up with ever-increasing population growth. Take a look at the most technologically adavnced nations on earth right now. How many of them have a sharply rising population growth rate? No/flat population growth? Falling population growth? Now look at the population growth rates for the *least* advanced nations? See a pattern here?
I am strongly in favor of a higher QUALITY of life, not QUANTITY.
Ironically, better Quality of Life seems to lead automatically to a controlled "Quantity".
Birth-rates in some developed nations are already below replacement.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility
In India, the higher-tech areas of the country (delivering a middle-class lifestyle to millions of young global call centre operators and software engineers...) are also the ones with the lowest birthrates. In fact, there has been a spectacular improvement in Indian birth-rates within one generation.
- A telling map is on http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/birthrate.htm
My solution: a relatively small "social security" payment by the rich nations of the world into the pockets of the global poor should help to stop population growth in its tracks. It makes a lot more sense to me than much higher defence budgets in the future if we just let things go...
This is an economic solution to overpopulation which only requires clear thinking and political will to start it up.
Right on for quality,not quantity!
Unfortunately,very few people in leadership positions are prepared to even discuss population and immigration issues.This subject appears to have taboo status.
May be something to do with political correctness and not wishing to appear to be racist?