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I would have a great deal more respect for Monbiot if he addressed the real issue in the UK, and that is that, as a small Island, we are way passed full. Our population is too great and we are set to increase our population by an equivalent of two Londons in the next two decades.
As our population grows, so too will our gross national carbon footprint. And this will exceede any Carbon Targets we set our selves.
All here know that this will, of course, not happen as we fall into fuel and energy poverty, and as we fail to produce any goods of substantial use, we will fail to purchase adequate food stuffs from outside.
Die-off will occur by: energy poverty; famine; and ultimately, social unrest, which may well verge on civil war or race war.
Because the UK Gov has enjoyed 12 years of unprecedented consumer led growth, low interest rates and a large majority, it has been able to milk the UK Tax payer and create non jobs, bizzarre and nonessential programs and feed a client base of underclass.
This was set to continue, but, the ramp in oil prices and food prices now competes with the Chancellor's hand in our pocket book.
Interest rates, flat wage increases, energy, food and fuel increases now competes with a decade of stealth taxes and increases in duty.
The UK tax paying milch - cow is only good for so much, and then the teat dries up.
The teat has dried up.
I have no problem with taxing the 'sins', but when you also tax the 'good', then a rebellion will happen.
Its happening now. A government cannot tax, tax and tax again, especially when so much is clearly wasted and none is hypothecated to good works such as public transport, underpinning a renaissance in nuclear power etc.
The price of crude has some impact on fuel, but the duty levied and the overall Value Added Tax escalates beyond this.
This Government announced an effective doubling of Vehicle Excise Duty on cars and it was retrospective on vehicles manufactured between 2001-2006.
It was masquerading as a 'green tax'.
It is not so. It is a tax on middle to low income drivers who cannot suddenly switch to a new , low emmission vehicle and so this demographic cohort is trapped with double VED tax, no chance of selling the said vehicle and just too strapped for cash to buy a prius
(the merits of which are highly suspect since the bulk of a vehicles life cycle carbon emissions are actually in the manufacturing phase).
Fine.
UK Gov wants to go 'green'?
Then:
1. Recognise that: As a nation we are full up - people we got.
2. No social security for able bodied people that have left school as long as they are not disabled. (I think you called it tough love in the US). There is work if you look for it.
3. You want babies? - fine , pay for them your selves: should not be a charge on the state.
4. Consider if we need any of the following none-jobs on the public purse:
'Community enforcement officers' (Dog poo and anti smoking wardens)
'Lesbian , Gay, Bisexual , Transgender Outreach Coordinators'
'Five a day healthy living officers'
'Real nappy coordinators'
'Diversity Awareness Officers'
Yes, these jobs plus inflation proof, index linked pensions do exist in the UK.
You could cut about 25% of all government employees by tomorrow lunch time. Take 3% off income tax and increase fuel duty by the following day - AND USE THE SURPLUS FOR PUBLIC WORKS
But we wont.
We will slide into anarchy.
Ten more years. Thats what we got.
Ten years.
(inflation-proof index-linked pensions? I don't believe it ;) )
A slide into anarchy?
Given UK's social history, I rather expect a slide into ever-more-vituperative fascism .. via the Sun, mail, telegraph, etc.
Your hopefully-ironic views miss the curious caste system in force since heavens-knows-when, where a large portion of the population subsist in quite impoverished circumstances, and now, with dumbed-down education, impoverished states-of-being too; a tiny minority in the UK live lives of unimaginably refined luxury, thier wealth squirreled away in financial mazes touching on cyprus, liechtenstein, belize, etc etc.
It's very clear to me that UK right now is an awful lot about making sure the very rich continue to get richer, and with the stranglehold the right wing have on the media, labour's hands were always going to be tied. Brown has and will be bludgeoned into oblivion the second he looks like he's even thinking about the colour red.
happily for you, I think all you can expect is more of the same, all the way back to ration books and feudal estates, indentured servitude, etc.
So .. you're in Burkes, eh ? :/
No, unlike a recent Labour Election Candidate, I am not in Burkes.
The Inflation proof , Index linked Pensions are true (for the payroll vote, not for many others though). How else do you expect the Government to retain a constituency? - Turkeys never vote for Christmas. Read the Guardian Jobs page.
'Happily for me'? Doesnt much matter about me. I weep for the next generation though.
Anyhoo,
Gordon Brown is making yet more pleas to OPEC regarding price and today he meets with Oil Company Execs to see how the UK can produce more oil.
That is the calibre of the man in charge.
The calibre of the man in charge:
Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling are meeting oil industry chiefs today as pressure mounts over soaring fuel prices.
Writing in the Guardian ahead of the talks, the prime minister said there was no quick fix to the "third great oil shock".
He called on nations to unite to stabilise the price of the commodity, which has increased from $10 a barrel a decade ago to $135 today.
And he said that the UK will argue that a global strategy to tackle the impact of higher oil prices will be put at the top of the agenda at the next meeting of the G8 group of industrialised countries.
Brown will use this morning's meeting with energy chiefs in north-east Scotland to attempt to secure a higher output from the UK's declining North Sea oil fields.
Yes - he really said that:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/may/28/economy.transport