Nice work, Prof G, thanks for giving this some space. Many TOD may still be confused, there have been a number of bills from both Senate and House for extension of investment tax credits beyond Dec 31 2008, each with a different twist.

Questions for anyone out there:
S.2821 passed 88-8 with bipartisan sponsorship
H.R.5984 (Bartlett's companion and identical to s.2821), all republican sponsors.
What's the deal?? Would seem unlikely tp pass without support from House democrats.
(see below about pay-as-you-go issue)

Other bills still out there, besides Bartlett's H.R. 5984, waiting for some action:

Anyone know where this has gone??
H.R. 5351 (The Renewable Energy and Energy Conservation Act of 2008)
would extend the tax credits, with cost of the program borne by the repeal of subsidies to oil companies
House passed 236-182 on Feb 27 2008
Referred to Senate, according to Thomas.loc.gov

H.R. 197 (as noted above by Prof Goose, 134 cosponsors, bi-partisan)
from govtrack.com
Last Action: (as of May 2, 2008)
Jan 4, 2007: Referred to the House Committee On Ways and Means
According to GoldSeek.com (on June 10 2008):

The good news is that the Senate has passed a bill called S. 2821, the bipartisan Cantwell-Ensign Clean Energy Tax Stimulus Act of 2008. S. 2821 has 43 co-sponsors. It provides for the limited continuation of the PTC for renewable energy. The Senate vote was 88-8 in favor.
There is a companion bill in the House, called H.R. 5984, with 70 co-sponsors. There is another version of this bill called H.R. 197, the "Pomeroy bill." But both versions are being blocked by the "pay-as-you-go" (PAYGO) rule that prevents "tax cuts" without corresponding tax increases. Contact your representative and urge him or her to support H.R. 5984 or the alternative H.R. 197, called the "Pomeroy bill."

Hi John,

Good to see you posting! I spoke just now with Mary Frances Repko in the Majority Leader's office (my Congressman Hoyer) and it looks as though HR 6049 may be brought up again in the Senate. EandE daily is the source she cited though it needs a subscription. http://www.eenews.net/eed/

The difficulty is, as you point out, having the incentives as revenue neutral or not. HR 5985 and 197 do not include tax increases that cover the cost of the incentives. HR 6049 does. However, it does not take the taxes out of the energy but rather finance industry I think, and, according the Mary Frances, closing loopholes that the taxed industry agrees need to be closed.

In any case, the Majority Leader would be supportive of the five year extention concept in the Pomeroy Bill but they are working on getting a formula that works in the Senate. Apparently, paying for these incentive by closing incentives for oil companies is not going to fly. But, if we do something sensible like institute gas rationing to bring down prices, the oil companies won't have the profits to tax in any case so I don't see a reason to balance against their incentives.

In terms of revenue, it seems to me that the renewable incentives will ultimately be revenue positive no matter how the current accounting is done since there will be taxes coming in once they expire on a much larger industry than would exist at that point otherwise. I suppose that sounds a bit supply-side but energy is an arena where those arguments actually have some merit.

Chris

A little more info: The failure of HR 6049 in the Senate was on a vote to end (or limit) debate, I think to 30 hours. It can be brought up as regular business and debated (and ammended) over a longer period. Here is another recent article: http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle+articleid_2279578~zonei...

There is some he-said-she-said in this article: http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/cda_20080611_9311.php

I would say that the best place to put some pressure is on McCain who can agree with Grassley that the conditions don't make sense but at the same time vote for some tax increases that do make sense. That way he can come across as pragmatic and ready for the general. It is uncertain how much strength McCain has in his own party yet, but his party is pretty good at unity so if he attempts to lead, there may be enough who will go along. So far, on these issues, he has been ducking votes. Letting him know that we need action and not just words might do the job.

Chris

Thanks, Chris, for these clarifications and the links. I'd be surprised if this doesn't go on into the fall, when yet more political hay can be cut and dried.

BTW, I've been posting PV install prices by market segment for NJ here. The data needs to be updated - which is on my computer - just need time to graph and post. Data by way of Charlie Garrison of Honeywell and Scott Hunter and Mike Winka from the Office of Clean Energy. The more we know the better our choices.

Hi John,

The SREC prices are about where we guessed I think. Looks like they are working then. Nice work on the graphs too.

Chris