Half Empty - thanks for posting this link - I think the whole thing needs to be posted on TOD. So I have Piebalgs 10 to 15 years behind the curve (we're all dead in water) and Birol maybe 3 to 5 years behind and on a steep learning curve:

Birol: Exactly 12.5 million barrel a day are still missing, about 15 % of the global oil demand (the current global oil consumption is 84 million barrel a day, note from the editor). This gap means that we could face a supply shortage and very high prices during the next years.

Birol: There are only three ways out of this dilemma: First of all we have to increase energy-efficiency drastically, we have to build more economical cars, trucks and airplanes, to slow down the incline in oil consumption. Secondly we have to use more alternative fuels in the traffic sector. If you take a look at how little governments are doing to help higher efficiency, though, I have little hope that there will be such a change of policy. The third thing is that we need many more oil production projects, especially in the key countries in the OPEC.

Like Andris he has a very mixed bag here of positive things mixed with garbage. Basically anyone who doesn't grasp the concept of net energy immediately upon first reading needs to be removed from any position of responsibility.

Funny Euen, In the past I have asked the odd question about net energy but as I never received much of a response so I felt that I must not be asking in an understandable manner. One question in particular was merely a simple one as to how the world total consumption was totalled. For example, using the figure above of 84mb/d, is that net or gross? If net what does the gross total? If gross what was the total less that needed for production. (maybe no quantified answer to that but I think a 'gross' view would still be 'one' into the 'net' of greater general understanding)

Kristil,


Its a good question. I suspect there is no universal answer. The UK and Norwegian governments publish stats that provide some indication of the energy used to produce fuel.

But relating these stats to the ones we normally use from IEA, BP et al is not straight forward. The data exists, but there is a PhD research project in there accessing it, untangling it and interpreting it.

The chart shows UK nat gas used in energy industries - actually declining as our energy industry has declined. Measured by off shore installations being decommissioned.

Not very satisfactory I know.

Euan

Uean, thank you for your response and for considering the question a good one ... so much for me considering it a simple one though.

But on a truly simple item, today my son came up from the basement to tell me that the unused, for two years, dehumidifier was still up and running. I guess it has been dehumidifying like a trooper all that time and then automatically stopping when full and then evaporating till... and etc. for two years! Good thing we haven't invented the energy conservation police yet.