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Cry me a river! ;-) The whole American experiment went off track long before you and I were born. We are a shadow of the potential we once had. Indeed, by the time we decided that we would give our "gift" of exceptionalism to the world, we were already generations removed from anything that made us unique.
We were off track before we even got started. The original contradictions (slavery and the treatment of the Indians) were quickly compounded by a war of agression against Mexico. Soon after extending the empire to the West coast, we fell to fighting among ourselves (the Civil War), which was followed all too soon by a war of agression against Spain, the annexation of Hawaii, and the gunboat capitalism documented by Smedley Butler.
The US faced a choice from the get-go: to extend the idealism of the original Republic to all people of all races, or to become an empire. For a while, the issue was in doubt, but the issue was settled long ago, by the dawn of the 20th century at the latest.
Agreed. Though I'd probably push the date to the dawn of the 19th century, but I'd have to push the proviso that we could have recaptured it perhaps as late as the lecture tours of Mr. Emerson.
Even from the start, there was a strong "banker" contingent that pushed for the global economic power, led by Alexander Hamilton. Is appointment as Secretary of the Treasury under Washington was probably the start of the fall.
Don't overlook Thomas Jefferson. Master of deceit. Claimed he was interested in family farms and local democracy -- in real life, a slave-holding believer in a global American Empire. (See Gary Wills on this point.)
The last chance we had to do more good than harm was in 1945. Eleanor Roosevelt's Human Rights Declaration began the discussion of trans-national standards of liberty. The Bretton Woods system we strongarmed the world into led to the best quarter century that poor people have known. The IMF and World Bank did some good things before the Reagan movement transformed them. Our occupations of Germany and Japan, and especially letting them retain control over their own capital, was a rebuke to the idea of liebensraum and eat or be eaten militarism - but now the US itself has destroyed international law in that realm. If only we had followed through with the 1946 Baruch Plan and given up our nuclear weapons. But the odds against successful UN control of nukes were fantastic.
Mostly, the evils of America's post-war vision were based on the belief that all-out, unimpeded growth would solve the grievances of poverty. Was it sincere? Instead the population explosion and attendant pollution and energy crises have left the US with no positive vision for the world besides neo-Victorian hypocrisy.
Actually, it was Carter that started the transformation of the IMF and World Bank, with Robert McNamera the tool:
Also see Profit Over People by Chomsky.
You history guys all need to read The Shock Doctrine, Naomi Klein.
Got it. It's in the queue. I've read lots of excerpts. Why do we as "history guys" need to read it?
Somehow, it doesn't surprise me much that you have it in queue...it has a nice account of the shameful history of the US overthrowing governments that didn't follow the economic party line. Perhaps "need" was a bit too emphatic; just a strong recommendation. It takes a lot for a book to get my jaded attention, these days.
Thank you George, for a true insight! Rest in peace.
True enough. I didn't say when things went astray. Interestingly enough, even though the truth has been hidden in plain sight since the beginning of the Republic, it is only recently that it has started to be easily visible, even to the true believers.
When I try to get past the problem of the policies of particular eras, I encounter the strange sensation that there was something wrong with the American definition of liberty from the very start, but it's hard to define the problem.
But one clue is the belief of early Southern elites that true liberty required involvement in politics, which required slaves to perform all drudgery. This was a ripoff of the story of Athens. But what if there's something to it? What if only the existence of slaves or energy slaves makes it possible for citizens to govern themselves - the Greek root of the word "autonomy"? Don't we think of autonomy as liberty?
I think you're close as Athens, Spatra and Rome were all modeled. Plato's Republic was and is very influencal. You also need to look at Hume, Locke, and Hobbes, and at those that influenced them (Trace those footnotes). Baylin's The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution and Wood's Radicalsim of the American Revolution are very revealing, as are their footnotes/sources.
As I mention elsewhere in this thread, one needs time to learn what must be learned. And learning from books or other sources of information pays very poorly. Thus the rationale for the hypothesis that only the well to do have the time to learn what must be learned in order to govern or vote for those who will govern properly. Amazingly enough, Protestantism is the root cause of this rationale's undoing, as its prime postulate is that everyone know what the Bible says so that s/he may be closer to God. That of course meant learning to read, the basis of learning and self government.