I had to laugh at the two articles about QER's proposed oil shale mine near Proserpine.They claim to have interests in renewable energy sources in QLD,including gas.This must be one of those self reproducing fossil fuels?
Shale oil had a run in QLD with the Rundle deposit near Gladstone.The company,with QLD goverment support,had a pilot plant up and running for a while but couldn't make a go of it for financial and technical reasons.I think some taxpayer's money disappeared.The failure was fortunate given the devastation that a full scale oil shale operation would have caused.I believe that the EROI on oil shale is marginal at best entirely apart from environmental concerns.
Nothing has been learnt,apparently.As Alice said,things are just getting curiouser and curiouser.
Apologies to Lewis Carroll.
On the gas front, biogas is renewable, though I don't think this is what they have in mind.
Gas from shale is also possible (the best shale oil extraction process - not that that is saying much - extracts gas from the shale, then burns the gas to power the conversion of the kerogen into rock - still pretty horrible but not as bad as the old retorting process) and is one source of unconventional gas we are likely to see emerge if we don't wake up and go down the clean energy route...
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I had to laugh at the two articles about QER's proposed oil shale mine near Proserpine.They claim to have interests in renewable energy sources in QLD,including gas.This must be one of those self reproducing fossil fuels?
Shale oil had a run in QLD with the Rundle deposit near Gladstone.The company,with QLD goverment support,had a pilot plant up and running for a while but couldn't make a go of it for financial and technical reasons.I think some taxpayer's money disappeared.The failure was fortunate given the devastation that a full scale oil shale operation would have caused.I believe that the EROI on oil shale is marginal at best entirely apart from environmental concerns.
Nothing has been learnt,apparently.As Alice said,things are just getting curiouser and curiouser.
Apologies to Lewis Carroll.
I looked at shale oil in Queensland last year:
http://anz.theoildrum.com/node/3310
On the gas front, biogas is renewable, though I don't think this is what they have in mind.
Gas from shale is also possible (the best shale oil extraction process - not that that is saying much - extracts gas from the shale, then burns the gas to power the conversion of the kerogen into rock - still pretty horrible but not as bad as the old retorting process) and is one source of unconventional gas we are likely to see emerge if we don't wake up and go down the clean energy route...
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Gav, you mean "into oil"...
Thats a by-product - most of the output is rock :-)
Thanks for proof-reading my comments - I think I need an editor of my own.