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Laid off coal miners can get jobs as installers of smart meters and drivers of smart buses. That's in about 20 years time when the easy coal has been worked out.
Phil I get the impression there are many more lurkers than prattlers.
I'd respond to that, except it'd ruin my status as a lurker.
FWIW I quite like the Bullroarers as they are :)
Hey hey Boof,
I'm a lurker on the BullRoarer because I'm an American and we have the Drumbeat to prattle on. I read the BullRoarer because I'm putting serious thought into moving to New Zealand or Australia in the next year or two to avoid the severe hardships that peak oil and global warming are going to cause. I'm much more optimistic about the future in the land of OZ than I am about hometown USA primarily because you folks have lower populations and population densities, greater social cohesion and far fewer guns, a broader distribution of wealth, geographic isolation, and lastly OZ is more aware of peak oil then anywhere else.
So should I be posting here or lurking?
I like that graph (though it shows NZ is the most aware, just above Oz).
Everyone is welcome to post here - you don't have to be a local...
Hey hey Big Gav,
My mistake. I new NZ was at the top of the list but I thought that OZ referred to both New Zealand and Australia. I've been to Australia but I hadn't seen the phrase "land of OZ" outside of the oil drum. I should have realized Australia -> Aussie -> OZ, sheltered life I guess.
On an entirely different note I read your post:
Before anyone else had replied, I didn't feel it was my place to weigh in on before any of the locals had a chance. But here is my 2ยข on the matter: It depends on what you want to accomplish. The Oil Drum Canada had their version called the Round-Up which was focused on the economy until Stoneleigh and Ilargi left to start The Automatic Earth. It seems to me that you can either have a local version of the DrumBeat in each region or you can differentiate by category. Personally I think both would be nice.
Having local versions of the Drumbeat means the local sites can have a bit more of a community feel and focus on issues that probably don't concern (or particularly interest) a global audience.
Having additional subject focused news roundups is also a good idea - its just a problem of bandwidth. I have toyed with the idea of doing a "the week in renewable energy" (or "the week in cleantech") column but if I did that I'd probably never get any long-form posts finished.
team there are thousands of Americans here already. One I sat next to on the plane cited GW Bush as his reason for moving. Social cohesion depends on where you go as rural and coastal areas are a mix of hillbilly boofheads, hippies and ex-city retirees. The back block country may look safer than it is; my speedball popping neighbours go wallaby shooting at 1 am. I'd check out various areas in person.
True, but I have trouble imagining something like the L.A. riots or Waco taking place down under. The USA is a melting pot that isn't finished melting. Which was fine while we were on the up and up and there was plenty for to go around, but on the way down not so much. Someone on the Drumbeat put it nicely: $100 oil is to the USA what the Berlin Wall was to the USSR. The USA is a sinking ship and it's collapse is going to be much more violent than that of the FSU.
I'm not really worried about peak oil and climate change. I can work hard, I can make do with less, I can grow enough food to get by, I know I'll be able to find my way through, it's everyone else I'm worried about. The government of the USA is going to handle the situation very poorly and I fear that the country will eat itself. Russia is probably the best long term bet but my Russian is terrible and I don't like borscht, but in all fairness I'm not that fond of Vegemite.
I'm leaning towards south island NZ because I think that they will collapse early and have a soft landing. This will enable them to reconfigure while other economies are still functioning and producing goods. The USA will collapse late and have a very hard landing. My gut feeling is that large chunks of the nation will devolve into a lawless mess like west Africa is now.
Sorry - if you don't like Vegemite then I think you'll fail the citizenship test - might be best to go to NZ :-)
Hey Team,
The South Island's "soft landing" will be achieved by cutting the power cable to the North Island!
;-)
And if you can't handle Vegemite, I hope you'll enjoy nude rugby..!
See the witch-hunt against 'theokobox' for a reason why people may lurk and not prattle http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4287#comments_top
-93 on the old popularity monitor - wow, is that the top score to date? I guess he was lucky it is a virtual community and not hands-on!
That said, TOD ANZ & Bullroarer is a much more laid back place to be. So if you are a lurker, come out of the closet and give it a try. You might still get savaged, but as the Bee Gees said "It's only words"