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I was talking about incremental investment. Increasing I-10 West in Houston to 14 lanes (# from memory) by buying the old KATY RR ROW. adding freeway lanes just about anywhere has higher incremental costs (even 4 lanes > 6 lanes for rural interstates typically costs more than half of the inflation adjusted original 4 lanes, although not dramatically more and some contra examples exist for rural interstates. From memory 6 lanes carry about ~45% more traffic than 4 lanes. Increased lane changes are the reason given).
I personally hate BRT (as least as promoted by GWB). I have ridden the Lex at the tail end of the rush hour (8:40 AM or so) and it was MUCH better than the worst public transit experience I have ever had. The southern terminus of the Miami Metro (extraordinarily pleasant view, the orange-red trees were in bloom, all else nice) transfers to BRT on a bus & official vehicles only busway. Desperately crowded, smelly armpits (it was June from memory) raised all around as the bus jerks and rolls like overloaded buses do, with a/c less than needed. And the GWB administration points to how much cheaper and successful this particular BRT was than extending Metrorail further south.
I noted a mixed crowd on MetroRail, but the last of the apparently middle class people walked towards the Park & Ride at the southern terminus and only a subset waited for the BRT.
There is a place for BRT, but a small place.
Alan
I'm sure there something useful in your model, but we won't get to it by quoting our favorite and unfavorite road and rail journeys at each other (Guilty, Yer Honner). Is it fair to compare 1->2 track rail with a 4->6 lane highway upgrade? Shouldn't we be looking at 1->2 (roads and rail with sidings or turn-offs) or 4->6 for both modes? Are there any long-distance 6-track rail corridors anywhere in the world? Isn't it simply the case (as someone mentioned) that dual-track standard-gauge rail was hugely overspecified for the needs of 150 years ago, and now we have a fair amount of legacy single track that can be upgraded at relatively modest cost because the ROW is wide enough for 2 or 3 tracks, or can easily be enlarged because it's in remote areas?
I'm about to relocate to a job in the suburbs of pre-WW1 megacity. My plan is to live in a walkable central neighborhood with redundant rail links to my place of work (reverse commute), and to manage without a car. So I'm on your side: I just think you could make your case better - and I'm sure you will.
TOD is a good place to whet one's arguments. But I am about to walk to a very nice restaurant for lunch with friends.
Canal Street in New Orleans had 6 to 8 streetcar tracks in it's heyday, but it was rationalized down to 4 tracks, which was adequate.
More than 4 tracks have existed at times, but I cannot think of a case where more than 4 tracks was every needed. Powder River coal basin is triple tracked and adding a 4th track in spots.
A 4 track railroad can carry a LOT of anything !
Best Hopes for Rail,
Alan