SBS's Insight had a decent show the other night talking about climate change, the emissions trading scheme and so on. You can watch it there if you have broadband.
As usual they did their best to avoid the subject of reducing consumption, there was quite a bit of the usual government-opposition and state-federal blame game going on, and industry guys were pretty openly asking for handouts. There was a bloke basically rubbishing the whole ETS on the basis that "well it's been tried and was just an excuse for handouts", they didn't like that much.
I was amused by their discussion of the means-testing of the solar panel rebate, one woman there said that if there'd been a rebate for her, she and her husband definitely would have got the solar panels. "But to be clear," Brockie asked, "could you actually afford it without the rebate?" The woman got a bit uncomfortable and basically said that she couldn't afford this expensive thing because she'd bought other expensive things instead.
Which gave me a good laugh, but is pretty depressing. Basically nothing useful will happen unless there's public support for it. And if the public would rather spend $45,000 on a 4WD than $25,000 on solar panels, we can't expect much from our pollies but the usual blame game.
Most people have good intentions but they only (generalising) tend to act on them if there is sufficient economic incentives.
Which means we need one or more of - more expensive power, cheaper solar panes, government policies to encourage them (subsidies and/or feed in tarrifs). Thankfully the trend is towards all of these, which should eventually start a big shift.
As for consuming less, its just not in the average person's psychological toolset - look at the obesity epidemic. Dick Cheney (curse him) was probably right when he remarked about conservation being a virtue but not the basis for sound energy policy - not because it isn't sensible, but because its too hard to get people to do it (except when the economics are clearly in its favour).
we need one or more of - more expensive power, cheaper solar panes, government policies to encourage them (subsidies and/or feed in tarrifs)
Well, there are heaps of ways to do it. I mean, solar panels for example are a classic instance of something which may save you money in the long-term, but which you'll not do because of the high start-up cost. $20 a week for 20 years may be $20,000, and $15,000 straight-up may be cheaper, but if I don't have $15,000 in cash to blow then... it's $20 a week for me. The whole hire-purchase industry is based on this fact.
So you can do things like mandate the energy company putting panels everywhere which they'd own, and passing the costs spread over all the customers, or else let people pay the panels off through their regular account over ten years, and so on.
There are a zillion ways to do it, you just have to want to do it.
Dick Cheney (curse him) was probably right when he remarked about conservation being a virtue but not the basis for sound energy policy - not because it isn't sensible, but because its too hard to get people to do it
I disagree. By that reasoning, Vic and Qld would have had desalination plants twenty years ago. Instead we had conservation. There are three basic things you can do,
- information - advertising the reasons to conserve
- carrot - progressive pricing, so that very high users pay a lot more per unit than very low users, the carrot being money savings
- stick - also the progressive pricing, but also regulations about use
We've done that with domestic water use. And basically it seems that information alone gives 5-10% reduction, carrot gives 20%, stick gives 20%, and all three together give 50% or more.
People used to think there was no way we'd ever reduce our domestic water use, but we've done it. If we can do it with water, I really don't see why we can't do it with electricity, transport and so on.
Its hard for governments to apply sticks continuously to the people who vote them in and out though.
Water is different - the only option for adding to the water supply is to build more dams (limited options available, expensive and unpopular) or to build desalination plants (expensive and unpopular). Its still relatively cheap and easy to build new power generation facilities.
SBS's Insight had a decent show the other night talking about climate change, the emissions trading scheme and so on. You can watch it there if you have broadband.
As usual they did their best to avoid the subject of reducing consumption, there was quite a bit of the usual government-opposition and state-federal blame game going on, and industry guys were pretty openly asking for handouts. There was a bloke basically rubbishing the whole ETS on the basis that "well it's been tried and was just an excuse for handouts", they didn't like that much.
I was amused by their discussion of the means-testing of the solar panel rebate, one woman there said that if there'd been a rebate for her, she and her husband definitely would have got the solar panels. "But to be clear," Brockie asked, "could you actually afford it without the rebate?" The woman got a bit uncomfortable and basically said that she couldn't afford this expensive thing because she'd bought other expensive things instead.
Which gave me a good laugh, but is pretty depressing. Basically nothing useful will happen unless there's public support for it. And if the public would rather spend $45,000 on a 4WD than $25,000 on solar panels, we can't expect much from our pollies but the usual blame game.
Most people have good intentions but they only (generalising) tend to act on them if there is sufficient economic incentives.
Which means we need one or more of - more expensive power, cheaper solar panes, government policies to encourage them (subsidies and/or feed in tarrifs). Thankfully the trend is towards all of these, which should eventually start a big shift.
As for consuming less, its just not in the average person's psychological toolset - look at the obesity epidemic. Dick Cheney (curse him) was probably right when he remarked about conservation being a virtue but not the basis for sound energy policy - not because it isn't sensible, but because its too hard to get people to do it (except when the economics are clearly in its favour).
Well, there are heaps of ways to do it. I mean, solar panels for example are a classic instance of something which may save you money in the long-term, but which you'll not do because of the high start-up cost. $20 a week for 20 years may be $20,000, and $15,000 straight-up may be cheaper, but if I don't have $15,000 in cash to blow then... it's $20 a week for me. The whole hire-purchase industry is based on this fact.
So you can do things like mandate the energy company putting panels everywhere which they'd own, and passing the costs spread over all the customers, or else let people pay the panels off through their regular account over ten years, and so on.
There are a zillion ways to do it, you just have to want to do it.
I disagree. By that reasoning, Vic and Qld would have had desalination plants twenty years ago. Instead we had conservation. There are three basic things you can do,
- information - advertising the reasons to conserve
- carrot - progressive pricing, so that very high users pay a lot more per unit than very low users, the carrot being money savings
- stick - also the progressive pricing, but also regulations about use
We've done that with domestic water use. And basically it seems that information alone gives 5-10% reduction, carrot gives 20%, stick gives 20%, and all three together give 50% or more.
People used to think there was no way we'd ever reduce our domestic water use, but we've done it. If we can do it with water, I really don't see why we can't do it with electricity, transport and so on.
Its hard for governments to apply sticks continuously to the people who vote them in and out though.
Water is different - the only option for adding to the water supply is to build more dams (limited options available, expensive and unpopular) or to build desalination plants (expensive and unpopular). Its still relatively cheap and easy to build new power generation facilities.