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One must ask, "Who does this price deflation hurt the most?". Those selling the oil, of course. Who is the West currently at odds with? That would be Russia, mostly. Could be coincidence?
I find that very doubtful - a year ago, oil was trading at around $70 per barrel, and no one was suggesting that this was in any way painful to major producers.
The pain is being experienced on the consumption side of the equation, and the idea that $100 per barrel oil is a "relief" just demonstrates how many frogs are being slowly boiled with smiles on their faces. Whilst prices above $120 per barrel were a nice windfall whilst they lasted, I doubt that any oil execs in Russia/OPEC will start fretting until oil hits $60 per barrel.
In 2003 the OPEC target price band was $22-28. In 2004 it was $30-35. In 2005 Chavez suggested that $50 was more than acceptable as a guaranteed price. Only $110 per barrel and "oh, noes, we're gonna go bankrupt!" Nah.
A few months ago someone on TOD did a superficial analysis of Saudi Arabia's budget and concluded that, given the size of their social welfare program, they would need about $90/bbl to balance their budget. Yes, the KSA could run a deficit (I think it is less likely they would scale back their welfare program because of concerns about social unrest), but I think it is more likely that they would try to defend $100/bbl.
The problem with easy money is that you get used to spending it, and sometimes it's hard to cut back to previous levels.
However, Saudi's budget requires dollars, not dollars-per-barrel.
I agree that OPEC as well as other oil producers have gotten used to higher prices, and this is exactly why their price target kept moving higher year after year, until they finally abandoned a price target and let the market run to the upside.
I don’t believe that any OPEC member or oil producer expected oil to trade in the $130/$140 range without a major supply shock (such as the Arab embargo or Iranian revolution), the fact that oil climbed to such levels on its own has probably given the producers a lot of confidence that oil may sustain much higher levels on regular market fundamentals then they thought was possible.
It is also worth noting that oil prices have risen by a hundred folds since the $1960s, and they never dipped to such levels after crossing the double digits in first oil shock in the $70s; and I do suspect that they will never trade for any sustainable period under triple digits in the future.
Regards,
Nawar
Come on londanium, we have decided today would be one of national morning in the oil patch. How are we to survive on this mere pittance? I’m sure some of the traders are panicked but at the well head you couldn’t knock the smiles of our faces with a baseball bat. I doubt $100 oil will take much shine off either the unconventional or conventional oils. Even when oil hit $147 most companies were still using $60 - $80 oil in their economics along with some other fudge factors. Based upon the 12 month running average I would expect oil to be bouncing around $110/bbl. As WT pointed out, Aug was the first drop in monthly avg in 7 or 8 months. And it’s easily to write that off to the high July avg. I can’t see any factors down the road that will permanently shift the trend downward but who knows: demand destruction may be sneaking up some out there along with a little bump on the production capacity side. On the other hand, if OPEC is finally on the verge of becoming a functional cartel, even DD might not bring a long term downward price trend with it.