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PLEASE READ:
Just stated on C-SPAN by one of the reps (forgot the name...damn... He was last to speak before adjourning.) I am paraphrasing:
We were told if we did not vote for the bill Monday the markets drop thousands that day and the next. We were told we would see Martial Law.
WTF????
Do people not understand when they are being extorted? Do you need to know anything else to know this bill is a pile of steaming BS?
Wow... what has this nation come to...
Cheers
Emanuel? Hoyer? LaTourette?
I just read those names off the c-span website, but i don't have real media player. I'd say search around the website and if you find that, post it to youtube.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=746563836197014413
He is talking about Congressional Martial Law. I did hear that Pelosi invoked it. It's not good, since it speeds up the legislative process and means there's less time to consider the bill. But it's not the kind of martial law the executive branch can declare.
Congressional Martial Law has been invoked before.
Martial law, in this context, is a fast track approach to Congress, but the question remains: are the numbers there for passage tomorrow? If the House Republicans were reluctant to vote for a bill on Monday that they read beforehand, are they going to be more willing to back another slate of legislation that is admittedly obscure? Especially when placing one's full trust and reputation on the reliability of the originators... behind close doors, away from the spotlight, with the public howling for blood.
Notwithstanding the clamor from Wall Street and the big boys from the Executive, I would say the odds of passage have diminished not improved since the beginning of the week.
One would think clandestine activities would only heighten the wariness of elected officials to stand against the public outcry.
Then again, what I know about American politics up until now could be written on the cover of a matchbook.
Who knows? They added a lot of "sweeteners," but that may turn off as many as it lures. Maybe what's happening (global meltdown) is enough to scare them into voting for it. Even if they don't think it will work...they don't want to be the one who killed it if the economy implodes.
No, is a different reference. The speaker in question was the final speaker before the session was closed on Thursday. He was not talking about Pelosi nor the House's processes, he was talking, quite clearly, about the scare tactics used by Paulson. (How the hell does Paulson invoke Martial Law? I doubt seriously Paulson knew of such a provision. I didn't.) He described the public events Paulson claimed might flow from not acting. The representative in question was discussing the initial meetings in which Paulson did his best to scare the hell out of them.
He could not have been discussing Congressional Martial Law because 1. that was done by Pelosi and 2. that WAS enacted.
Our Congress was told the US would essentially fall into chaos if they didn't pass this bill on Monday.
Totally inappropriate.
Cheers
This must be it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOlYa0G0erg
Yes. I saw it live. I had just stumbled across it and was going to post it but you already had.
Cheers
Of Crashes, Failures and Bailouts - Round III
No. That is from a few days ago. What I saw was LIVE, Thursday evening,end of the session. The House was essentially empty.
Cheers
Are you sure he wasn't talking about "Congressional Martial Law"?
It's a procedural thing, that speeds up legislation. It's not what most people think of when they think of martial law.