which studies would those be? I look around, and I see a sea of fat, diabetes, hypertension, coronary artery disease and low back pain.

What else might be wrong? Not that people eat too much!

The question is why they eat too much. And the answer, it appears, is refined carbohydrates. Refined carbs screw up your body chemistry and your appetite control system.

Amazingly, despite the conventional wisdom, there's little scientific evidence that fat is bad for you.

The obesity explosion in the US started after the government starting recommending a low-fat diet.

The conventional wisdom on this really is changing. A friend of mine in Ohio had a heart attack recently, and the doctors told him that his number 1 priority should be to cut down on refined carbs. Not fat, refined carbs.

I blame high fructose corn syrup. Cheaper than sugar, and in damn near everything, starting early 70's. Your body tastes the sweet but doesn't process it the same way as plain old sugar.

I know they have their own commercial now, which to me just proves it's horrid.

I 100% agree on the refined carbohydrates point (personally lost ~90 lbs by switching to a low-carb diet). However, it's important to distinguish between "good" fats (non-hydrogenated, unsaturated, Omega-3/6-rich) vs. "bad" fats (hydrogenated = worst, saturated = better, but not great).

Unfortunately the FDA and Big Agribusiness have colluded over the past 30 years in a massive propaganda campaign to convince Americans that ALL fats are "bad" for you, while all carbohydrates are "good". Most Amreicans are simply too lazy and ignorant to do the research and decide for themselves.

However, it's important to distinguish between "good" fats (non-hydrogenated, unsaturated, Omega-3/6-rich) vs. "bad" fats (hydrogenated = worst, saturated = better, but not great).

No, it's not. The "good fats vs. bad fats" thing is as bogus as the low-fat diet.

'fraid not.

Consumption of fats and oils is not as simple as delivering energy to the body. Omega 3 and 6 in particular are "essential" in that they cannot be manufactured by the body. These things are building blocks for cytokines which have important regulatory effects on the immune system. Get them out of whack in your diet, and your own biochemistry will suffer.

The incidence and progression of MS for instance is pretty strongly related (although not "proven") to saturated fat consumption. Also very good epidemiological evidence that omega-3 is protective of that, and of heart disease.

I suspect that consuming a variety of fats is probably the healthiest thing to do. And perhaps certain fats are better for people suffering from MS. That does not mean we should all eat that way, though. Indeed, that is a key point from Gary Taubes' Good Calories, Bad Calories. Some of the conventional wisdom (such about cholesterol) is based on what happens with people who have a genetic defect that results in abnormally high levels of cholesterol. What's good for them may not be good for normal people - may in fact be bad for normal people.

Taubes also argues that the omega-3/heart disease has little scientific support. It was proposed as an explanation for why Inuit, who live on meat and blubber, don't suffer heart disease.

But if it's actually refined carbs, and not fat, that cause heart disease, no explanation is necessary.

If you have not read Good Calories, Bad Calories, read it. It's really eye-opening. An awful lot of what we thought we knew about nutrition is actually based flimsy, even contradictory, evidence.

perhaps certain fats are better for people suffering from MS. That does not mean we should all eat that way, though

There is evidence that reducing saturated fat intake and taking in sufficient quantities of omega 3 reduces the prevalence of MS in the population, as well as reducing progression rates for those who have it.

So yes, it probably does mean that we all should eat that way (at least if we want to reduce our chance of developing MS).

Ref: George Jelinek, "Taking Control of Multiple Sclerosis", (2005, I think)

There is evidence that reducing saturated fat intake and taking in sufficient quantities of omega 3 reduces the prevalence of MS in the population, as well as reducing progression rates for those who have it.

Another point from Taubes' work: correlation is not causation. That is probably the biggest problem with research on human nutrition. You cannot do the kind of experiments on people that you can do on, say, rats. You cannot keep all other conditions the same, and change only one variable.

MS is an autoimmune disease, and like many autoimmune diseases, is more common in wealthy, developed nations. Which might be assumed to have a different diet than in poorer nations. That makes epidemiological studies on diet suspect, or at least very complicated.

That is the problem Taubes found with the fat-heart disease link. Fat and meat consumption go up as a population gets wealthier...but so does refined carbohydrate consumption. It's difficult to tease them apart. And the obvious test cases, such as Alaskan natives that eat a lot of fat and few carbohydrates, were ignored as a fluke.

You're right that correlation is not causation, and as you say there is really no way to carry out the experiments that are required to prove causation. The same problems would apply to "proving" anything relating to simple carbohydrates.

What we have with MS is some pretty strong epidemiological evidence, plus a plausible biochemical basis. It really amounts to what standard of proof you want, but it's good enough for me:

- MS is much more prevalent in inland Norway than on the coast, the primary difference between the two being that the inland diet is heavy in saturated fats from a dairy based diet (lots of milk, cheese and butter) whereas the coastal diet is heavy in fish (lots of omega-3). Lots of other less direct evidence but this is the one that sticks in my mind as far as saturated fat / omega-3 issue goes.
- Swank's longitudinal diet study indicated that long term progression for MS patients was greatly reduced (order of magnitude improvement) in those who could stick to a diet of less than 20g of saturated fat per day. This is a much larger effect than any of the medications that have ever been tested.
- omega-3 is the building block for a group of cytokines that suppress inflammation, which presumably includes inappropriate immune interaction with the nervous system in the case of MS (omega-6 is the building block for the pro-inflammatory cytokines. Both synthetic routes use a common catalyst in the body and what can happen is that if you eat too much omega-6 (from, say, canola) that can block the conversion of omega-3 by saturating the synthetic pathway).

Yes simple carbs are a problem with diabetes / syndrome X. But the simple carb story is not the only important nutritional story that needs to be told.

The point I'm trying to make is that "fats ain't fats". They are biochemically active and have different nutritional functions in your body. They are not just inert energy carriers (although they serve that purpose also).

If anyone is looking for a good baseline book on nutrition, I recommend Walter Willett's Eat, Drink, and Be Healthy.

It's really important to distinguish between refined carbohydrates like table sugar or white flour, versus whole foods like especially whole grains. "Glycemic index" is one measure, but it gets tricky. E.g with whole grain flour, it depends on the coarseness of the grind.