I've thought alot about nationalization for two years. In my conversation with the Obama energy team, I concluded that although they were a tad idealistic about the ease of problem solving, and, were also not cold to the idea of extra taxation on energy producers--they were, admirably, well educated in energy policy history and energy policy mistakes, from our past. And did not want to repeat them.

Rather than nationalization, I could see a time when Washington lends money to NG producers to goose production, and uses the occassion to get producers to boost hiring. In return, the government could offer a ladder of buy prices for the extra production of NG, or some structure thereof. I imagine a world where NG prices have fallen below the incremental unit cost--and yet--because the wider macro environment makes NG prices too "high" still, for people, the government comes in and subsidizes the difference.

Grim stuff.

G

In other words, 'nationalization-lite'?

;-)

Yes. A rose by any other name would not smell as sweet. But, nationalization by other names might smell sweeter.

I had a flashback today to a secondary school lecture, by a brilliant teacher, in which he explained how agricultural economics defied typical economic theory, and how the boom-bust cycle in food production presented unique problems to society. And how society had come over the years to realize that you simply had to dampen the cycle in agriculture, to make sure both the farmer and the society survived. It was a very simple lesson. But as I watched the energy equities crumble further, my memories were stirred.

G

PS: XTO press release tonight on CEO's sales:
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=97780&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=...

It's no accident that you've linked ag with energy.

And ID'd that ag "defies" TEC.

Ag HAS to defy TEC because it is the transfer mechanism
of the eco to the economy. All wealth is automatically leveraged
away from agriculture. EX- Why have the term "Nonfarm payroll employment".

Note that Zero economists talk about ever "paying back" the "equity"
taken(borrowed) from Mother Earth.

Just as talk of "subsidizing" energy production to create more energy
defies the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

Absolutely.
In extremis, WWII, food import blockade etc., following dismal depression in 1930s and low Ag production providing less than 30% of UK food as calories, UK had to invent all sorts of regulatory mechanisms to increase and smooth farm production. Marketing Boards for example for produce (e.g. eggs, milk, potatoes). These survived until need to join EU followed by Thatcher / Reagan globalization when agricultural production problems were deemed to have been solved.

And how society had come over the years to realize that you simply had to dampen the cycle in agriculture, to make sure both the farmer and the society survived.

I don't understand how extra taxes on energy producers is going to encourage production. Seems it would have the opposite effect. The only benefit I can think of off the top of my head, is that the uninformed public gets to see some blood from those evil energy producers ... and then walk home from the show.

Gosh, maybe "Washington" will be as successful with with NG market over site and meddling as it was with Frannie & Fredie! We all know what a good job "Washington" did there. We all know that Washington is just filled with congressmen and bureaucrats that are just natural gas financial and marketing wizards! You just know "Washington" would run things better, don't you?