Any energy source would be the same, I would think. Energy functions as Maxwell's Demon, to decrease randomness--and increase "wealth" for whoever controls it and increases randomness--and increase "misery" for everyone else.

Energy sources that are less concentrated, like solar energy, should be more "democratic" than concentrated sources because they are more difficult to corral by a ruling class. I imagine that is why solar power has been largely discouraged. Not because it is "expensive", but because it is harder to "administer" and "manage."

Not because it is "expensive", but because it is harder to "administer" and "manage."

Only if you can't store it.

Life became a lot less egalitarian once we started growing food that could be stored: grain.

Ahah! That is how you control sunlight energy. Develop a priesthood to manage agricultural land and water resources, then grain storage and a writing system (just for the priests) to "manage" it all. Before petroleum there was grain and olive oil and wine.

It's still more democratic, because it is still harder to centralize. However -- if you can make agriculture dependent on petroleum -- well, there you have it all.

I dunno. The life of a medieval serf doesn't seem like it was very democratic to me.

DENNIS: Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords
is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical
aquatic ceremony.
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power
just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: I mean, if I went around sayin' I was an empereror just
because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd
put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up! Will you shut up!
DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!
DENNIS: Oh, what a give away. Did you here that, did you here that,
eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me,
you saw it didn't you?

thanks!!!!!

What I needed!

Livestock "on the hoof" is also a great way to "store" food until it is needed.

Don't forget the greatest invention of all: Beer. One can imagine a brand new but leaky clay storage vessel straight from the (wood or charcoal-fired) kiln. It is clean enough to start brewing after a good summer downpour. Next, the pleasant revelations, the visionary haze, the incredibly bad decisions and the ensuing headache that results in a brand new urban culture. Let's call it chip-chop...

The "keep" was originally the place where grain and other food was stored. Obviously, it doubles as a watchtower. The food surplus from agriculture leads to the first civilization, and it's all based on accumulation and specialization. Armies, walls, rulers' tombs and monuments first. Slaves, horses and camels next. The GOP's brand new agenda goes back a very long way.

Agreed. So It's really tough to 'sell' the idea of these very helpful BB's to our neighbors as we continue to reminisce over the age of Muscle Cars and Unlimited Energy.

A producer I work with has proposed making an 'Energy Show' to me today, but I'm trying to unspin some of his expectations of paying for it with the involvement of various Energy Companies that would be profiled and hence, promoted with the program. Even if its Green Energy and essentially positive, it's still ALL pointing towards Bigger Stone Heads, as Leanan would say. Who pays for an episode on 'Negawatts' (Amory Lovins and Grants, perhaps) .. It's not unsolvable, but it's life in a system where the ideas that can get airtime are the ones that have profit-motive behind them.

It reminds me of the arguments the other day about whether 'debt' is money or not. As an artist, I call it 'negative space', as an electrician, I might call it the 'return path' for the current. In terms of our energy use, the power we DON'T use is the essential balance to the energy we DO use.. and the things that DON'T make money are, similarly, a fully essential counterpart to that which fits in the marketplace.

"Who will buy this wonderful Morning?..." -Oliver Twist

I don't know where you are based, but here in Minnesota utilities are now mandated to reduce energy consumption. They are scrambling to find ways to talk consumers into using less. Maybe he should pitch the idea here?

Here in Nebraska, the utilities are also looking for ways to get customers to use less, primarily by becoming more efficient. Course the difference here, compare to the other 49 states is electricity here is a public utility. I find it kind of nice that an investor's profit is not involved.

Funny, we tried to pitch the same kind of show to Discovery Channel as a spin-off to Discovery Planet. They'd have nothing of it. The show was to feature a producer on a stationary bicycle powering the monitor. Free lunches sell a lot better than farming.