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Gail -- I'm not talking about a state working a tax angle in the rationing scheme. The oil I'm talking about actually belongs to the state. They purchased those mineral rights long ago. The status of those rights is no different than the royalty rights the Feds own in the OCS. The state can take physical possession of all that oil and do as it wishes with it. Somewhat similar to the Colorado River water right Cal purchased years ago. I doubt Cal would accept the Feds coming in and giving that water to AZ, for instance, regardless of how "fair" such a rationing plan would be.
On the one hand, I don't think such actions are guaranteed. But I've been in Texas for almost 30 years and have a good handle on state politics and general public sentiment towards the Feds. In a truly catastrophic long term shortage situation (a true nightmare scenario) I can honestly envision an armed conflict if it came to it and neither side back off. That may sound absurd to some but come on down and spend some time here...might change that thought. I’m really not being a doomer. I just really know the folks down here. It’s not just an old joke: many here think of themselves as citizens of Texas before they consider themselves US citizens.
Rock
do you remember in the energy crises in the 1970s some Texas and Louisiana politicians saying something to the effect 'well we don't HAVE to sell our gasoline to other states. it is ours after all.."
I remember reading about that buy can't find link...
Nate -- I'm sure it was said numerous times back in the days of "Let Them Yankees Freeze in the Dark" bumper stickers. And here’s a link with a bunch of Texas political tongue wagers:
http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/texas/entry/let_the_bastards_freeze_...
The thought wouldn't be so disturbing if I didn't really see the potential for such a conflict. Until the recent economic meltdown and the prospect of OPEC becoming (MAYBE???) an effective cartel I couldn't imagine a scenario where it might come to that sort of conflict. Are you in TX? If so you may understand that long standing and somewhat buried resentment towards DC that many here harbor. The conditions that Texas required the Feds (both factual and urban legend variety) to accept before voluntarily joining the Union is well known by most native borns. I've been here for 30 years and am still considered as a TBC...Texan By Choice.
Folks...I do kid around here a lot...just my nature. But I really am concerned about such a prospect if the SHTF really hard.
Actually the most popular bumper sticker was, "Let the bastards freeze in the dark." This was in reference to most of the natural gas produced in the state being obligated to be sent out of the state to the midwest. They were everywhere including one on each of my tankwagons and employees' cars.
Now that I think of it, this may be the reason Matt Simmons puts together maps of energy resources by states, and figures out which states are importers. Georgia and Florida do pretty badly. Florida, Louisiana, Wyoming, and Kentucky do pretty well (from memory). I am sure there are others too.
If there is ever a cheese shortage, I'm in good shape...
You live in Tillamook?
Kidding