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73 comments on Ammonia Fuel Network Conference - 2008

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SacredCowTipper on October 29, 2008 - 11:46am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Nice to see a genuine expert showing up to comment on this area, since I'm pretty much helpless there.

You should write at length and further school us on this topic - a few more paragraphs wouldn't kill you, would it? :-)

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JCG on October 29, 2008 - 2:14pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Sure... I'm not much of a blogger but I'll check back now and then to see if there are any burning fuel cell questions.

But everybody should remember that a fuel cell is just the icing on the cake; using an ammonia-fueled device is the easy part - the real challenge is gaining acceptance for its use as a fuel in the first place.

A fuel cell gives you chemical-to-electric energy with less total losses than an ICE-powered genset, but at a greater capital cost. Fuel cell costs have come down quite a bit in the last several years, let's hope that trend continues!

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Paleocon on October 29, 2008 - 3:01pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I heard cost estimates this week of $7K per kilowatt for hydrogen fuel cells. Are NH3 cells similar? An ICE generator is of course significantly less. For low-run use, fuel cost is less significant than considerations such as fuel shelf life, genset total maintenance, run-time between planned maintenance events, and other factors that play into total cost of ownership.

Do NH3 fuel cells get the same incentives as H2?

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