to be sustainable we have to become poorer doesn't jibe with the notion of a Steady State Economy recently lauded on TOD. Maybe population has to shrink to replicate 'our' current lifestyle (ie that of the existing middle class) but who will tend the neglected transmission lines and the potholed roads?

Interesting to see Greenpeace and others challenged on their assumed role as the new vanguard.

What we have now is not sustainable. I would assume that the comment would mean we have to accept a lower living standard than our current high unsustainable standard.

we have to accept a lower living standard than our current high unsustainable standard...

a room at the HOTEL EUROSTARS GRAND MARINA, close to la rambla and the trade center, goes for USD 260 per night.

it would be nice if some of our leaders, who are so valiantly trying to convince us to lower our standard of living, would lead by example.

...not to mention the fact that i couldnt seem to cash in enough beer cans to afford the plane fare and convention fees to attend the meeting in amsterdam.

$2000... for plane fare and convention fees.

maybe next year... provided i dont die of alcohol poisoning first.