Morning Cliff,

Sorry you're grumpy today.

When the whole shebang collapses I'll come around and collect those worthless solar panels from you. I'll have to use the electric car, hard to carry panels on a scooter. Grid going down? 40 years of electricity from those panels should serve me well. It may look like the panels are just sitting idly, but they'll be working.

Various electric gizmos should be cheap, and I'll have enough panels to do just about anything I please. Heck, I could just sit around making Hydrogen.

Batteries aren't so great but they are optional, and I read some good stuff here about long term storage of battery components. Pull the crap out of your basement, mix together, and voila, more batteries.

I'm not sure why you're so down on viable personal solutions. Highways and the grid? Who cares, maybe it will be nice to have them gone, I'm not going to fight to save them. I'll be at the beach enjoying Mother Earth's free wave energy.

Cheers