You tread heavily, Alan, you you're right. the greater the sprawl, the more energy and materials are needed to maintain it. But people don't want to live in huge complexes that are efficient and close to downtown. People want the illusion of space and security in their own home, away from the city, with fancy counter tops and attractive baubles. Perhaps they always will. Sustainability will raise its head soon enough, I'm afraid; perhaps that will pop the mindset of the American Dream.

Dreams change. It was only a few generations ago that the dream was "40 acres and a mule."

From the perspective of happiness, it is not the grandiosity of the dream that matters, but the ability to achieve the dream. Our current model of dream chasing has us always just shy of the goal. It keeps our desire to purchase more always at the forefront. How different would our world be if instead we had dreams that were obtainable and enjoyable for being so?

It was only a few generations ago that the dream was "40 acres and a mule."

That will become the dream again.

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...From the perspective of happiness, it is not the grandiosity of the dream that matters, but the ability to achieve the dream....

Such an important point. Fundamental to the American Dream is idea (more of a foundation principle) that we can do better than our parents, and our children can do better than us. "Better" has traditionally been measured in wealth, not happiness, satisfaction, health, etc. Our problem is that it will be a painful thing for a large chunk of America to realize that their dream is truly beyond their reach. Current generations are unlikely to leave their kids in a situation in which they will be more prosperous. That will be a very large and bitter pill, possibly more than many Americans can take. The denial will be stunningly strong.

The question is, can we change our attitudes? Can we redefine the American Dream? Can we change the measurement system so that we measure happiness, satisfaction, community instead of wealth? Can we change the definition of status, so that status is derived from being a good neighbor and friend, rather than from being rich or holding a position of power? Can we reprioritize so that cooperative success is considered more important that individual success?

If we as a people/species can do these things, we will be better able to adapt to our changing circumstances. We may be able to redesign a society that promotes a newer, healthier version of the American Dream, one that can, in fact, leave our children in a position where they can be at least as happy, and perhaps happier, than we have been.

The question is, can we change our attitudes? Can we redefine the American Dream? Can we change the measurement system so that we measure happiness, satisfaction, community instead of wealth? Can we change the definition of status, so that status is derived from being a good neighbor and friend, rather than from being rich or holding a position of power? Can we reprioritize so that cooperative success is considered more important that individual success?

Very nicely said. I think you have put your finger on the defining aspect of our time. Are we up to the task?

I think this is right on. Are we up to the task? I might add that, while we, as individuals, may be "up to the task," I worry about the struture of our economic and political system. I won't launch into some treatise on the structural impact of concentrating vs. distributive systems in human society, but I worry that the necessary paradigm shift you identify is structurally incompatible with our politica-economic system. When we start talking about fundamental systemic change, impacts start to get much more extreme in a hurry...

A friend pinpointed the main reason that I am attracted to New Orleans several years ago. More than the food, music, architecture, Mardi Gras, etc. it is that New Orleans has no social pressure to conform. I can be a white nerdy engineer and have gay banker, gay artist, black musician, etc. friends. My social status is MUCH more dependent on the good that I do than the money I make.

In three different "recovery planning" workshops (different demographics for each), we were asked what did we most want to preserve about New Orleans. In all three, the #1 answer was "the way we relate to each other".

At parties here, it is quite unusual to be asked "what do you do". Sex, religion, politics# are freely discussed, but "what you do" is not. Elsewhere, I am asked that in the first 5 minutes, so I can be comfortably ranked socially (my assumption).

The post-K public involvement remains at sky high levels. Recent reports/test results are showing a marked improvement in public education. Volunteer help has been part of that.

No society is perfect, and that is a goal New Orleans would never even aspire to, but we are very human and recognize, and accept, the humanity of our fellow citizens.

Elsewhere in this thread someone wrote:

But people don't want to live in huge complexes that are efficient and close to downtown. People want the illusion of space and security in their own home, away from the city,

I have the illusion of space (it is called the Lower Garden District for a reason), the efficiency of our urban form is well hidden under several layers of chaos (so is the density), it is beautiful in several different ways, and I live 1.2 miles from a 51 story office building.

Best Hopes for Learning from our example,

Alan

# Sen. Vitter's sexual preference for having prostitutes give him enema's while in a diaper, and his hyprocrisy with "family values" (condemning those without his stated family values) and church endorsements covers all three I think. OTOH, Gov. Edward's claim that he and opponent David Duke (the election from Hell) had something in common, they were both wizard's beneath the sheets, was received with a chuckle.

Elsewhere, I am asked that in the first 5 minutes, so I can be comfortably ranked socially (my assumption).

I don't think it's so you can be ranked. It's because it's more personal than talking about the weather. Many social gatherings aren't between friends, but rather acquaintances, and in that setting people don't want to show their cards (political, religious, sexual orientation, what have you.) So asking about one another's jobs is a way to show interest in one another, without having to actually see if your values mesh. Then after you've gotten past the 'what do you do' you can shift to talking about sports or something equally vacuuous.

Sad...

Elsewhere, I am asked that in the first 5 minutes, so I can be comfortably ranked socially (my assumption).

Considering that most peoples identity is tied into 'what you do' and that many of us spend 1/4 of our time at that job - 'what you do' is a quick way to attempt to obtain common ground in addition to apply filters.

Social ranking can be applied to the clothes you wear and the manner in which you speak.

Well, I may be in a minority here in that I see peak oil as a presenting symptom and not as the cause of our problems, so my response is tempered by that belief. The incompatibility you note between the necessary change needed and our politico-economic system suggests one of two things;

1)the necessary change can't happen because of that system, or
2)that system must come to an end.

By calling that change necessary, we have already indicated that option one is not acceptable to us. That means we must work towards the second option.

Yes, it's that big.

"2)that system must come to an end."

Agree whole heartedly.

I look at the micro to get an idea of what might happen macro.

All the people I talk to who now "get it" are TOTALLY focused on preserving their wealth.

Oh, that and buying weapons.

Jeff, I believe you have hit the crucial point of the whole problem , we need a fundamentally different structure, one that is incomptabible with our current centralized politica-economic system. Of course you blog about this in the possibility of an emergent distributed rhizomatic structure.

The thing though that I take away from your writing is that we can get working on these rhizome nodes right now, in the cracks of our current system, so that when it falls the landing is not as harsh. So a resilent suburbia is just a few steps away from morphing into a rhizome node.

I say lets get started by first developing a simple open source set of sustainable technologies that will allow suburbia to produce its own energy, tools, manufacturing capabilies and food production. I shamelessly must promote this open source site where all this is happening openfarmtech.org

I want to respond to both your comment and the comment above: I agree that the system needs changing AND that part of the preparation and facilitation of that change is to adapt the infrastructure we already have (e.g. suburbia) to facilitate the growth of the new system. Here's a link to what I've written about the need for, and the path to, such a new system: The Problem of Growth.

I agree, openfarmtech.org is an amazing start and a very exciting platform for building these changes... I email regularly with their founder, and I highly recommend readers explore their site and participate.

bmerson asked:

Can we redefine the American Dream?

Yes.