Certainly, and I hate being a pain in the arse, but there's a real opportunity here. Indeed, this may be the last opportunity to change this piece of the debate, as it goes more mainstream.

My post isn't about these papers, of course; hence my apology to the posters; it's about the title of the TOD section. I don't suggest that there be any censorship, merely that TOD starts to exert its growing influence by making the terms of the debate clearer for the lay audience.

There's a real and valid question about any entity such as TOD: once it's established, what is it good for? I suggest that's it's good for exactly this: rendering abstruse-seeming concepts more easily accessible to non-academics. And if you do change it, it will be clear who changed it, and when it happened, and why.

This is good advice and should be taken.

I won't carp about it after this on TOD, I promise. Kudos for the concept of a dedicated TOD section on this, which is no small thing.

Acronyms should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler...

Oh, and I think the "Phlogistan" name already may be planned for use in a redivided Iraq. Kinda catchy...

Hi greenish,

Since your advice is good I don't see any reason why you should refrain from giving it at every opportunity. Anyone who has raised kids knows the value of repetition. Say it often enough and eventually you get through, and the lights go on.

If EROEI is the minimum accurate expression of the concept (and the truncated EROI fails to impart the necessary information) then EROEI it is!

Kindly go right on carping.