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You're honestly going to pretend that the decision for you was between the jumbo SUV and the Insight? If no Insight was available you wouldn't have looked at a Mazda 3 or a Toyota Corolla? Please.
Depends on the same factors (make/model/etc) that impact smaller cars. You certainly could buy a reliable SUV if that was on your list. And again... 150k could easily be the lifespan of the Insight. My brother has one and it hasn't been bulletproof.
Oh please (again). There was most certainly a reliable used small car available with a tiny engine that got an mpg significantly closer to the hybrid than to the Suburban and for a small fraction of the cost of a new Insight.
Then your "analysis" was a con game you played on yourself to justify the expense. That's ok... it's how car salesmen have made a living for decades. You spent more than you would have on some alternatives and justififed it to yourself based on some inflated calculation of what you would save.
It did the last time this happened.
There was most certainly a reliable used small car available with a tiny engine that got an mpg significantly closer to the hybrid than to the Suburban and for a small fraction of the cost of a new Insight
An examination of the cost of used vehicles in the year 2000 and their life expectancies is something that perhaps you would like to undertake; I simply showed the difference between the choice a large number of commuters were making and what I made.
It did the last time this happened.
You may choose to believe that gas prices won't go up again for a long time, but the whole purpose of TOD is to alert people to the peaking in oil production and the effect it will have on price, so that we can understand the effect our consumption choices will have on the economy and our own financial wellbeing.
Hence, I stand by my original statement; "In looking at the big picture, Americans have wasted small fortunes on trivial luxuries and failed to invest in intelligent choices."