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A quick canter through shows nothing dramatic. However the dimensions on the 3D plots looks to be an order of magnitude out on the physical size expected of these areas. So I wonder if someone hasn't got wise and maybe played with the data somewhat?
Saying that, here is a capture of what looks to be a run on Ghawar, with some pertinent questions. Maybe Cycle = years since run start time? If so, and if you tie the first to the previous depletion data on the state of Uthmaniyah, cycle 10 could be the current/near future state of the field? With a heavy emphasis on the questionable nature of the data and the big assumptions being drawn.
Edit for high pressure, read low, scale confused me.
BTW, the two views of Ghawar in this presentation, from two slightly different orientations, allows you to create a stereo pair. Excepting glasses and all the other ways of viewing 3D pairs, this link presents the two images in 'wobblevision', which is about as good as you can get for 3D tricks on normal displays.
Egads, man! You have come up with a new way of doing EOR!
Just wobble that oil out!
Holographic displays, pah!
Star Wars would have been so different if the 3D imagery were in wobblevision!
Anyway, what think you of the questions arising from the images?
I'm not sure what you are trying to gather from the pressure plots. The field could be fully pressurized if the water injection pressure to all the wells. You would have low pressure at some wells if they aren't well connected hydraulically to the injectors. Changes mean ... ??
That's more a question for you. Pressure goes up when a zone is depleted. That's what it appears to show, so what 'pressure' is being shown? Remaining oil pressure? Whatever it is it follows the pattern of depletion.
If the presentations are useful for gaining an insight into what the Saudis are looking at, what does that say? And what is that area to the west of Haradh in the later cycles of the model?
Look at them closely, there is something being said there I think.
Pressure at the wells does not decrease as the oil is depleted, but it is being maintained by water injection. The oil doesn't have any pressure -- only what is being supplied externally (or by the aquifer, if you stop injection).
I also don't know what it means for there to be a pressure gradient outwards from Ghawar. There are no wells out there, so no way to measure it anyway.
I'll think about it, but ??????
Super-K fractures blowing water outside the Ghawar reservoir proper?
i think your work on khurias (sp ?) indicated that they were pressuring the entire aquifer for however many miles it is to khurias.
No. They are piping water all the way to Khurais, but it has its own injection wells.
Edit:
The basic problem with trying to read anything into these "results" beyond Ghawar's borders is that the inputs into the simulations come from individual wells within Ghawar. The billions of cells which make up the 3d volume used for the simulation get their properties by interpolation of the values of the physical properties near the wells (porosity, permeability, etc.).
Outside of Ghawar, there are no wells. Thus, there is no data on which to base simulations. So speculation about what these figures mean is just an exercise in randomness.
JB
"The billions of cells which make up the 3d volume used for the simulation get their properties by interpolation of the values of the physical properties near the wells (porosity, permeability, etc.)"
generally, and a big generally here, i question if dividing the reservoir into smaller grid blocks (cells) based upon interpolation gives any improvement in the quality of the results. the interpolated reservoir properties may or may not be accurate. if they have seismic data upon which to base changes in reservoir properties, that is a different matter and i think that is outlined in the pdf.
the golden rule of reservoir simulation is to use the least number of grid blocks that will adequately solve the problem at hand. and trying to model a reservoir with too few grid blocks may not give good results either. i know from experience that using too few layers will result in questionable results and coincidentally that was in a gravity stable case(a reservoir that was shut in for 28 yrs).
reading through the pdf, i couldnt help but think i was being given a sales job.
and wrt khurais, yes, that is not the one i was thinking of. but wasnt there a field you posted upon a few months ago that i thought was 17 miles or so from ghawar where the reservoir pressure climbed over a shut in period, probably the result of injection into the aquifer adjacent to ghawar.
Harmaliyah
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/3754
Yes, the pressure there was increasing and moving the oil around. But in the present case, the pressures outside the reservoir are decreasing (and the values are all to high). Oh well.
if the saudis are showing a pressure gradient away from the reservoir, that implies pressure support from the aquifer which is kind of hard to believe.
some models have a pseudo acquifer function to account for water influx, a fudge factor, if you will, to obtain a history match on pressure. which is just another way of saying that a model, any model does not provide a unique solution to the problem at hand.