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It is not clear why billions need die. The Olduvai doomers have yet to explain the causative relationship between fossil fuel consumption and being able to maintain a particular population level.
Given the misanthropy in the rest of your post, I assume it's just wishful thinking.
Generally because of a simple logic error:
(1) Food production requires fossil fuel (Fairly true statement)
(2) A reduction in the amount of fossil fuel will automatically cause a reduction in agricultural production because of (1). (False - this would only happen if 100% of fossil fuel was used for food production).
Misanthropy? Misanthropy?
Try living where you have to see it often. Huge huge piles of dead trees. Not used for fuel.Used to simply create paper for printing on.
What happened I ask to the PaperLess Office? Was it just bullshit or is the paper used to print stock certificates or just more dollars then?
It sickens me to see the landscape virtually stripped of growth, ignorant deadly agriculture practices and you dismiss it as 'misanthropy'. I call it the 'steps to hell'.
The log trucks never stop rolling. Coming from the ozarks of Missouri , the lands of western Tennessee,even parts of southern Illinois and finally most of reachable Kentucky.
I talked to a log cutter last summer. He was proud of his job,well previous job for he was not assisting me in some work, I said to him that he was denuding the land for future generations and us as well.
His reply which I have made part of my post was simply" Why don't you try wiping your ass with plastic then?"..I told him he needed a corncob shoved up his.
He didn't last on the ag job so now back to cutting timber.
Now the folken running these enterprises have decided to make them a bit obvious by hiding some. Yet in mountaintop removal you can see it for many many miles away and you wonder then about the ignorance and utter depravity of this people who inhabit what was once very beautiful and extremely fertile lands not to mention the beauty of the Smoky Mtns.
Yet they could care less. We could care less. We are eating our seed corn and now the price is coming due. Very much due and its not
"Misanthropy" to me. Its killing us.
Airdale..course you may not see it and have to watch it...eyes wide shut....We will need it but like gas its not renewable either.
And I hear that recyclers are not able to find a market for their product. There should be a major tax on the use of virgin material. It is a crime that we have so much unrecycled paper while we continue to denude the landscape. Misanthropy indeed!!!!
Trees are renewable. If it takes more money/energy to recycle post-consumer paper (which contains stuff like ink, toner, glossy coatings, adhesives, etc.) than to use virgin pulp, maybe it makes more sense to turn the paper into biogas or ethanol or something else that displaces a non-renewable resource.