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For any doubters that ELM is real use this tool to quickly check 100 or so oil producing countries and regions.
Almost all exporting countries with post peak production show declines in exports while domestic consumption remains essentially the same or grows.
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/
As I said the other day, I really developed the ELM, just a simple mathematical model, to help me understand what happens to net oil exports as production shows a long term exponential decline, with consumption generally, but not always, showing a long term exponential increase. I was, and remain, stunned by the resulting net export decline rate.
As are those of us who have followed your 'simple little model' and get it's implications. Without ELM it's just the bathtub draining w/o noticing the growing elephant standing in the tub drinking his fill. I showed the chart of Indonesia net exports to our two young professional offspring this holiday for a nice family oh shiite moment BTW.
A room full of unhappy elephants can't be wrong. It's the primary reason why I don't see demand related oil price falling much from here. With much lower price the potential for conflict will be much higher and put a floor down IMHO. Low cost producers HAVE to cut, or create tension to bring their production/price in line with the high marginal supply destruction cuts coming from the OECD. Who wants to produce their remaining net barrels for cheap printed script while gold to oil is so far out of whack and their own budget deficits grow?
A new non-bank trillion dollar stimulus (one nation only) that may actually make it's way down to the consumers (who will spend) will buy a ton of gasoline at $1.65 a gallon and these two factors provide the juice to ensure increased economic activity. And ,hey, newly reinfused GMAC will get you into a low interest two for one deal on a shiny new guzzler with a Cobalt on the side. Plenty of fuel tanks around the world to soak up the remaining 100 Gb net export barrels at 1% per 50 days.
Thanks for helping us keep it in perspective WT and a pleasant new year to you.
(It ain't gonna be dull)
I went for $75 to $100 for end 2009 but wouldn't be surprized if it went higher.
xeroid,
looking at the data for Austria in http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/ it does not seem to match up to the data supplied here http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=at&product=gas&graph=produ...
I read in an Austrian newspaper that they produced nearly 20% of their natural gas (sorry no link, only in print).
Here is a link where OMV wants to increase production to 20% of Austria's needs.
http://www.scandoil.com/moxie-bm2/news/omv-strengthens-security-of-suppl...
In the data browser from your link, there is no production shown for Austria. What gives?
It's good to see you are using the tool for gas as well as oil.
The article says that the OMV company intends to expand it's gas production by 20% by 2010, not 20% of Austria's usage.
I think that 0.06 million cubic metres domestic production is an almost insignificant proportion of the ~339 million cubic metres actually used in Austria ... that's about 0.02% of Austria's needs ... certainly not 20%! ... yet.
year production consumption
1980 0.075 186
1981 0.051 159
1982 0.047 154
1983 0.043 157
1984 0.045 175
1985 0.041 188
1986 0.039 182
1987 0.041 190
1988 0.044 181
1989 0.047 195
1990 0.045 215
1991 0.047 228
1992 0.051 224
1993 0.053 235
1994 0.048 242
1995 0.052 262
1996 0.053 281
1997 0.05 271
1998 0.055 279
1999 0.061 285
2000 0.064 272
2001 0.061 288
2002 0.066 291
2003 0.074 315
2004 0.069 317
2005 0.058 339
Looking at this link http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=at&product=gas&graph=produ...
I think you will see that it is 0.06 trillion and not million.
Yes, sorry, all trillions ... production and consumption.
Production is so little it doesn't even show up at this scale.
http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=at&product=gas&graph=produ...
Thanks for replying.
It appears the the newspaper I read ( Kleinezeitung) picked up on the 20% increase reported by Oil & Gas and reported it as 20% of consumption. Very reassuring for it's readers, but also total mis-information.
Sorry for wasting your time. :-(
Dave