For those still skeptical of the tie in between higher oil prices and housing, I recommend a reading of Driven to the Brink. How the Gas Price Spike Popped the. Housing Bubble and Devalued the Suburbs (PDF).

The collapse of America’s housing bubble—and its reverberations in financial markets—has obscured a tectonic shift in housing demand. Although housing prices are in decline almost everywhere, price declines are generally far more severe in far-flung suburbs and in metropolitan areas with weak close-in neighborhoods. The reason for this shift is rooted in the dramatic increase in gas prices over the past five years. Housing in cities and neighborhoods that require lengthy commutes and provide few transportation alternatives to the private vehicle are falling in value more precipitously than in more central, compact and accessible places.

The (permanent) loss in value for decentralized housing locales could be estimated by calculating NPV of annual payment streams for extra commuting costs. It was estimated in Wisconsin alone 50 cents of higher gas prices resulted in $300 million in annual gas spending; that spending comes out of home site prices (land values). A two-dollar price increase, $1.2 billion annually, NPV for a twenty-year time frame: ? Factored up for a national loss estimate= ?

I suspect easily $1 trillion in real estate value vaporized due to increased commuting costs. That would represent a roughly $10,000 discount on the site value (land alone) for about 100 million homesites nationwide. This value only returns if long-run commuting costs return to late 1990's/early 2000 values. Likely? Not. So, how to value all the loans associated with that land? Add on top of that destroyed structural value (pipes stolen, etc.) and add on that the declining employment and wages (net demand for housing). We are paying/have paid a hefty price for not planning for peak oil. Whoops.

In 2008, New Orleans home prices rose 4%. Much of that is post-K effect, but unflooded real estate in my area is definitely up.

Alan

Are wages and salaries going up too?

Are houses 2.5 to 3 times average yearly wages salaries?

A single shotgun (~600 sq ft) in decent condition in a decent neighborhood (say Gentilly) can be bought for $75,000. 75K is significant, because that is the homestead exclusion for property taxes in Louisiana.

Alan

A double shotgun renovated as a single shotgun (1,200 sq ft) for $75,000 about 6 blocks from the French Qtr on the border between good & bad neighborhoods.

http://www.latter-blum.com/RLNet/Listings/ListingDetails.aspx?ListingId=...

I know analyses have shown that the drop in home values is much greater in distant suburbs than in central cities, going along with what you are saying.

The distinction between land values and home values is important to maintain. There are thousands (millions?) of vacant home sites, the inventory of lots, that quickly lost value. For an interesting example, see the unfortunate saga of one little regional player, Lakeland Finance in Minnesota. They obtained their funding for exurban projects from some now familiar faces (Bank of Scotland) and lo and behold, they have no idea how to value what was supposed to be $500 million of far-flung residential bliss.

Minnesota's housing wastelands

Millions in loans with no appraisals? That was business as usual for one Minnesota lender that didn't have to worry about regulators. Now it's insolvent, and cities and homeowners are stuck cleaning up the mess.

The Star Tribune site has a link to the RBS receiver report for these "troubled legacy assets" and the story includes some apocalyptic photos of what's left behind.

Demographics are also a factor in the collapse of demand for distant suburbs. Young families with children are a declining share of the population and this shift will grow in coming decades. So, land for commercial and residential development in distant suburbs is a bad investment, regardless of gasoline prices.

In other words, the drop in gasoline prices won't restore the distant suburbs, even if the disastrous credit conditions could be taken out of the picture.