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114 comments on Towards a New Sustainable Economy - Robert Costanza

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Nick on March 25, 2009 - 2:46am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

"We ARE unavoidably going to becoming materially poorer....The underground physical resources, hydrocarbons in particular, that underpin industrialism are depleting"

This is a basic question, and a long discussion. I hadn't really intended to go there, as I was really talking to Nate.

OTOH, I guess it needs to be addressed. I'm not sure you're open to new info, but there are certainly people reading (lurking) who would be interested. So, here goes - here are a few posts from my site:
Can oil can be replaced?
would reducing CO2 emissions be that hard, if we really wanted to?
Population

How pessimistic should we be?

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Neil1947 on March 25, 2009 - 7:35am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Nick,
Your optimism is refreshing and always backed up by some good links/facts or well reasoned arguments. Peak oil does not =peak energy!

I must admit to being pessimistic that CO2 levels will not be controlled until serious damage is done to ocean life by declines in pH and [CO3 =] ion.

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Nick on March 25, 2009 - 12:48pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Thanks for the compliment!

I agree about ocean acidification - that's a good example of why I'm less optimistic about climate change than I am about peak oil: ultimately, our FF consumption is under our control, while our effects on the planet are much less so due to lag times and positive feedback.

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davebygolly on March 25, 2009 - 11:11am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I'm not sure you're open to new info, but there are certainly people reading (lurking) who would be interested.

Why resort to a comment like that?

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Nick on March 25, 2009 - 12:49pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I meant no criticism - I regret if any was felt. I've just had many experiences of people who, IMHO, had a hard time hearing this info.

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