a big bathtub with three spigots at the top going in, and three spigots at the bottom going out

Really sad that economist professors are not trained in science or politics.

Say someone shuts off the Hormuz spigot at the top of the good Professor's hot tub. It won't take long for him to realize he's been swimming naked under a set of delusional fantasies. There is no giant bath tub and there are no infinite rate spigots. The Earth is a finite globe and its exponentially growing population is making a big sucking down sound.

It is even more sad that these are the people the EIA (and apparently the Obama administration) consider important to put in front of all the attendees at the opening plenary session.

Nordhaus went on to explain a lot of other things--how little oil imports were compared to our total imports; how comparative advantage made it important that we import all this oil; and how the audience was just not properly trained in economics. If we were, we would understand that people talking about our dependence on foreign oil are just mistaken.

I think, on the other hand, that if we were all properly trained in economics, particularly the prize winning economics of recent decades, we would all be dealing in risk management and derivatives. Wouldn't that be a wonderful world! Economics is the most sleazy of the sciences by far. But people with money seem to believe in it, mainly because economists really suck up to people with money, I think.

Economics is the most sleazy of the sciences

Don't get me wrong. There are parts of economics that I consider to be a valid study of system behavior. Then there are other parts that I consider to be total propaganda and brain cleansing (of a kind far more effective than your everyday colon cleanse).

Consider how some economists talk about "subprime mortgages" being the cause of our current economic woes.

No, you idiots! The piece of paper (a.k.a. legal contract) called the "mortgage" does not pay the monthly rent to the bank. It is the poor unemployed schnook who lives in the house who pays the rent.

But he can't pay the rent because he is unemployed. And he is unemployed because you morons off-shored his job --all in the name of "economic efficiencies".

So dear economists; the real cause of the crisis lies not in the "subprime mortgages" or in our stars, but rather in the maroon who stares back at you from the mirror every morning.
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/end ad hominem attack on economists (that is if they qualify as species hominem, wink, wink)

>Really sad that economist professors are not
>trained in science or politics.

Not trained in politics? What do you think Nordhaus was doing there? Baking cakes? That's all economists do is politics.

That's all economists do is politics.

A plausible case can be made that politics is the primary activity of all people in academia. Of course, the job of a "professor" is to profess, i.e. advocate for some point of view on some intellectual question. I think of Prof. Fred Hoyle and his theory of continuous creation of matter. He advocated, with vigor, for this theory for several years. No one doubted his sincerity. To the extent that economics is academic science, economists do politics as part of their profession.

In political science, there are advocates for the idea that all ideas are situational and relative, and that there is no underlying truth to any intellectual construct. It is from this tradition that I derive my first statement here. I doubt the literal truth of the relativist position, my self, but I can profess it pretty well. I don't know where Nordhaus really stands. I have trouble believing in his sincerity.

So, there appears to me to be 'good politics' and 'bad politics'. Mine, of course, is good ;-)