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light299 on April 18, 2009 - 6:17pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

There are alot of jobless people who do not cheer when GDP declines.

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Jason Bradford on April 18, 2009 - 7:30pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

It is a conundrum. But what were they doing? How many people have jobs that essentially liquidate the very assets that keep us (and most other species) alive?

There's plenty of useful, non-harmful, work to do. If we had an economy where macro-indicators like GDP DIDN'T also correspond to an increase in the ecological debt then I would feel otherwise. Until then I will keep cheering on the "bad" news.

I like the EPA decision. Anything that makes it less likely that coal will be mined is a good thing.

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Sterling925 on April 19, 2009 - 2:04pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I'm on board with you Jason. Here in my neighborhood there are a lot of people on the front lines of coal mining/power that appreciate your support. Anyone that thinks that we in the US have stopped building new coal plants is underinformed. Mountaintop Removal and Valley Fill mining has not stopped yet either but is being dealt some good body blows.

http://www.ilovemountains.org/

We'll see...

This brand new "clean coal" facility is also capable of using switchgrass as a fuel. How much switchgrass does it take to make 278 megawatts anyway?

http://www.wxix.com/Global/story.asp?S=10112800

Current battle that may benefit from EPA position:

http://www.kftc.org/our-work/stop-smith

Thanks to all who take a moment to help central Appalachia.

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Get your bumper sticker here:

http://www.wvhighlands.org/store/pages/ilm_stick.html

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airdale on April 19, 2009 - 10:23pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Sterling,

I would bet that ifn they were cutting the tops off the Rockies that you would likely hear the screams all the way to DC.

Yet for the poor folks of the Appalachians? A big sigh. Thats it.
"Change the channel dear,would you?"

Obama don't care. He is from Chitown doncha see? Now he is worried about Mexico.

Airdale-the little owl in the Northwest got lots of play. Mountains don't seem to count. Honey bees or wild birds neither. Above my bed a house wren has built its nest. I am letting it stay there. Each morning it finds the hole in my living quarters and wakes me as it flys to its nest. Right above my ceiling fan over my bed. I am missing the barn swallows. Airdales of the skies. They can go ahead and put droppings on my VWs ,,just let them come back.

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airdale on April 19, 2009 - 10:24pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

And I will order some of those stickers.

Airdale

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Sterling925 on April 20, 2009 - 7:49pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Thanks Airdale.

You know you are a poet:

Above my bed a house wren has built its nest.
I am letting it stay there.
Each morning it finds the hole in my living quarters
and wakes me as it flys to its nest.
Right above my ceiling fan over my bed.
I am missing the barn swallows.
Airdales of the skies.
They can go ahead and put droppings on my VWs
just let them come back.

Nice!

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Jason Bradford on April 19, 2009 - 11:37pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I saw an amazing movie where the connection is made between flipping on a light switch and a mountain being blasted to smithereens. I lived 9 years in St. Louis and would make trips to the Ozarks, a couple of times to Kentucky, so I know the bioregion a bit. Those forests and creeks are absolutely wonderful. Few people know that some of the greatest diversity of amphibians and fresh water aquatic life lives in the SE US. Old mountains with isolated, endemic populations getting exterminated so we can have the most consumption with the least marginal utility perhaps in world history. It sickens me to think what is going on.

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Sterling925 on April 20, 2009 - 7:59pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Probably "Kilowatt Ours" Good documentary by a young couple. Optimistic, too!

Thanks for all you do. We're reading out here in the heartland looking to you and Willits and others for inspiration.

Buy a sticker ;-) Full disclosure, I don't belong to WV Highlands Conservancy but I buy stickers 20 at a time and give them to a local business that sells LED's and other energy saving hardware to give away.

We're fighting...

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