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Rajiv on December 7, 2005 - 10:33pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
You should look at George Monbiot's article in the Guardian The most destructive crop on earth is no solution to the energy crisis

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Over the past two years I have made an uncomfortable discovery. Like most environmentalists, I have been as blind to the constraints affecting our energy supply as my opponents have been to climate change. I now realise that I have entertained a belief in magic.

In 2003, the biologist Jeffrey Dukes calculated that the fossil fuels we burn in one year were made from organic matter "containing 44 x 1018 grams of carbon, which is more than 400 times the net primary productivity of the planet's current biota". In plain English, this means that every year we use four centuries' worth of plants and animals.

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mikegordon on December 8, 2005 - 8:31am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
There is no doubt that using ANY resource that is grown in the ground can cause more serious issues than mining or digging out of the ground, but Hemp is the ONLY natural resource than can be produced indoors in controlled environments. Indoor production would negate the negative effects that this crop would have on the farm land and it could be scaled to any level needed. Therefore, the negative issues concerning Biomass fuels are eradicated.
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Biologyfool on December 8, 2005 - 11:41am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
"...but Hemp is the ONLY natural resource than can be produced indoors in controlled environments......Therefore, the negative issues concerning Biomass fuels are eradicated."

You're joking right?  If you grow the plants indoors, that doesn't mean they no longet need N, P, and K.  Now you've got to mine for the P and K and use natural gas to create the Nitrogen.  You've just shifted the "negative issues" to someplace other than where the plants are grown.
-BiologyFool (who thinks MJ should be legalized for other reasons)

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tom deplume on December 8, 2005 - 12:38pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
There is (or was) an hydroelectric facility in northern Canada whose primary customer was an ammonia plant. The electricity was used to electrolyze water for hydrogen and to cryogenically extract nitrogen from the atmosphere. Using the Haber-Bosch process they manufactured NH3(anhydrous ammonia). No fossil fuels needed.
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