107 comments on a linear extrapolation of oil consumption by demand growth, production growth, and demand elasticity
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This isn't a hard constraint. There are lots of easy ways to commute with much less gasoline: ride a scooter, van pool, take the bus, bicycle, telecommute etc. Look at NY during the transit strike. They forced every car coming into Manhattan to carry at least 3 people, and people arranged ways of dealing with it in a day or two. If a similar system were announced nationwide in the U.S., the oil speculators would be trampling each other, running for the exits. There are lot of non-price ways of adjusting elasticity. See Saving Oil in a Hurry from the IEA. So I don't think we can really make the assumption that demand will always be inflexible. How flexible will it be if the government makes carpooling mandatory?
I would add to your comments that any talk of the price elasticity of oil demand has to be extremely specific in terms of three things, two of which are very hard, if not impossible, to model:
The easy one is the size of the price increase. The demand response will be non-linear with respect to the price change (hence the fact that they're demand curves and not straight lines). Over a pretty broad range, the larger the increase the ever larger the non-linear demand response.
The timing of the price increase and the demand response. If price creeps up over several months, people will adjust much more slowly and less in absolute terms than if the same percentage price increase happens in a week.
Market psychology. After the hurricanes we had a lot of very spooked drivers in the US. People were scared that they wouldn't have gasoline to get to work or the food market. Just as people started to get serious about minimizing their fuel use, prices came back down.
I'd also toss in a reminder that we simply don't know how people will react to truly high prices in the US. The price level in 1981 and 2005 were, adjusted for inflation, almost identical. But we still haven't seen what the US consumers will do when faced with months of gasoline prices above $5/gallon. (That price, in 2006 dollars, is my personal, seat-of-the-pants level for the lower bound of genuinely high gasoline prices.) IMO, at that price level we're deep into unchartered waters, and we could very well see a level of commitment to conservation rivaling or even surpassing anything the US did in WW II.
IMO demand reduction in US will not come through high prices but through shortages. All things being equal people will continue driving even with 10$ gallon because there is simply no real alternative. Yes they will drive less but not that less than you think now.
The SUVs must go, and before too long, one way or another. After all, they (and their associated mentality) are the real reason the 'american way of life' is in peril.
If you have an SUV sell it now, before it becomes worthless.
Business as usual will soon not be an option, the planet has said so and is not going to negotiate.
Eco-terrorists will not be needed. The people who are stuck owning the things will find them to be such albatrosses that they will torch them themselves and try to collect the insurance. In the end eco-terrorists would get the blame, I suppose.
Sleep on friend's couch to be within walking or biking distance - OK for three day strike, gets old and intolerable really fast.
Bus - slower than molasses even when it deigns to show up. In most places, a ten minute drive becomes an endless ninety minute ordeal. One's time must be utterly worthless (but why, then would one be commuting?), or else gas must exceed maybe $15/gallon.
Scooter - generally incredibly dangerous. Useless in winter.
Bicycle - generally too dangerous. Often useless because banned from U.S. bridges and tunnels. Useless in winter snow and ice. Socially useless in summer, few places have any showers, much less enough showers.
Van pool - very practical in densely populated Manhattan. Elsewhere, endless ordeal like bus.
Telecommute - can be practical, but it's not our decision, it's our boss's decision.
Car pool - OK short term, but bosses will not tolerate the scheduling constraints for long. Only the tiny unionized sector still has any rigid 7:30 to 4:30 jobs.
These alternatives are generally impractical without forceful legislation. That would many businesses, taxpayers, and transit providers very, very unhappy. Employers told to install showers, to allow telecommuting, or to allow European-style uniform working hours (I once witnessed Belgian labor police swarming a small business at 6PM to make sure all the employees were out of the building), will yowl to the heavens. So will shiftless bus agencies asked to become actually useful by doing better than "just show up when you happen to feel like it".
Without making the alternatives practical, just stranding everyone who doesn't have a child or two to plop into the car to meet a police-enforced minimum headcount is not the most workable or equitable long-term plan.
They can also move back to the city, where there are lots of eager workers, all in walking distance.
In most areas, employment is more centrally located than housing. There is usually no single location that can be described as "near the workers."