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NYC: Best Place for $100 oil? Maybe...
Posted by Glenn on April 3, 2006 - 1:24pm in The Oil Drum: Local
Topic: Policy/Politics
Tags: automobile, food, freight rail, new york, new york city, oil, peak oil, ports, stock market, transportation [list all tags]
Last week, Sustainlane ranked NYC the #1 place to live in an Oil Crisis:
New York City is the city most prepared to cope with a $100+ tank of gas. With its strong city and regional public transportation system, New York stands out above the rest. From New York City's subways to the Tri State area's suburban train lines, New York is truly the only American city where people are committed to riding over driving."As the largest city in the country and the business capital of the world New York City must be prepared for what comes our way, and we are," said Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg. "That New York City has been recognized by SustainLane as the best prepared city to face a nation-wide oil crisis is testament to the resiliency and strength of our infrastructure."
It goes on to highlights many of the ways that cities can be redesigned to be less dependent on automobiles for everyday transportation needs. But I have to point out a few issues not included in their analysis.
Here is a description of SustainLane's analysis:
SustainLane has looked at the largest 50 U.S. cities with this scenario in mind. We wanted to know which cities will be the best places to live and work if gas prices suddenly rise because of coming events out of anybody's control.SustainLane has ranked the largest 50 U.S. cities based on recent city commute practices, metro area public transportation, sprawl, traffic congestion, local food and wireless network access (in order of importance: see chart). There are many other areas that rising oil prices will affect: construction, retail goods of all types, utilities (especially in the Northeast, the one part of the nation where heating oil is used)—virtually every aspect of our economy will be hit. We looked at the areas most directly impacted: how people get around, where their food comes from, and how they work.New York City is the city most prepared to cope with a $100+ tank of gas. With its strong city and regional public transportation system, New York stands out above the rest. From New York City’s subways to the Tri State area’s suburban train lines, New York is truly the only American city where people are committed to riding over driving.
While I agree the New York is probably a better place to live than the suburbs or exurbs ringing most cities, New York is a very special case for many reasons and will face it's own unique challenges. Local NYC residents may not directly feel the $100 tank of gas in their wallet at the pump, but they will feel it in many other ways.
One needs look no further than the recent comptroller's report to pick out a few of NYC's weaknesses in a high cost energy world:
Continued strength on Wall Street has helped the City's economy gain momentum in 2005, although growth continues to lag the nation's. Real Gross City Product (GCP) grew 3.3 percent in 2005 compared with 2.4 percent in 2004. Yet GCP was slightly below the GDP growth rate of 3.5 percent. Factors contributing to the City's growth were a stronger job market, higher wages, Wall Street profits, and a surge in tourism. However, the inflation rate soared to a 15-year high as energy prices rose to record levels. [Employment]...gains were broad-based, with leisure and hospitality, education and health services, and professional and business services adding the most jobs. The critical financial activities sector added 6,800 jobs mostly because of 6,300 new jobs in securities. The City lost jobs in manufacturing, government, and construction. The faster pace of job growth was reflected in a decline in the NYC unemployment rate, which fell to 5.8 percent, the lowest rate since 2000.
Seems like good news right? Here's another way of looking at NYC's position:
1. From Main Street to Wall Street
Wall Street bonuses are expected to be bolstered by high revenues as well as a stiffly competitive
market for top talent, and may hit a record $21.5 billion in 2005, according to the Office of the New York State Comptroller.
New York's economy is uniquely connected to the rest of the country's economy through Wall Street. It's tax base, real estate market and smaller service businesses are heavily dependent on the stock market's fluctuations and the bonuses given at large investment banks and brokerages. A major stock market crash, asset depreciation and subsequent lay-offs at major Wall Street firms, could send NYC back into a 1970's type public financing dilemma.
2. Tourism Dollars
New York City & Company estimates that the City hosted 6.7 million international and 34.8 million domestic visitors. Tourists are estimated to have contributed about $22 billion in revenues, generated $5 billion in taxes, and accounted for some 330,000 jobs.
New York's economy is also heavily dependent on tourism and business air travel from all over the world. As fuel prices rise, tourism will become more localized and less international. As family discretionary budgets tighten, I think a trip to NYC may become much less frequent.
3. Energy Driven Inflation
The inflation rate jumped to 3.9 percent in 2005, the highest level since 1991, and the core inflation rate, which includes all items except food and energy, was 3.0 percent, the highest since 2002 and notably higher than the nation's core rate. Energy, transportation, housing, and services all contribute to high inflation.
While most New Yorkers don't drive cars, most of the goods they consume are delivered by truck instead of freight rail. While this is far more efficient than each person driving separately to the supermarket for that last leg of the trip, it shows that we are still heavily dependent on fossil fuel driven transportation for long distance goods to be delivered here. And while NYC does have more multi-unit buildings that are more energy efficient, this winter was generally mild New York does have some bitterly cold days that require significant heating.
Can NYC survive $100 oil? Yes.
Will NYC fare better than the rest of the country? Yes.
Will it be pretty? No Way.
One part of the SustainLane report I would like to point out is this statement, which I believe is key:
One commonality each of these ten cities has--though this was not used to determine the ranking--is that each is a major port. Port cities have the natural advantage of receiving imported goods without the added fuel needed to send truck fleets across the nation to landlocked areas. Just as it was for hundreds of years before the twentieth century, a city's geographical location may once again become the most important factor keeping its economy thriving.
Every area will have it's own issues to work through. NYC does occupy a great geographic position, but will need to diversify its economic base to include more manufacturing, working harbor ports, freight rail connections and support more regional agriculture. It also needs to make sure that major economic disruptions do not harm the quality of its public services (police, fire, sanitation, etc) that might create a vicious cycle of fiscal distress, poverty, drugs, crime, corruption and ethnic tension like the 1970s. All you need to do is compare the responses to the 1977 blackout and the 2003 one to see how far we've come. I sincerely hope we do not regress back. I plan to work toward making sure that we can make NYC as energy efficient and sustainable as possible, but it will be a big job.
What do you guys think? Remember that this just focused on cities, not small towns, suburbs or rural areas, so this is not necessarily a complete analysis of where you might want to go. What cities, towns, parts of the country would you rather be in during a $100/barrel oil crunch?
happy anti-bicycle kick.
http://www.times-up.org/press_view.php?release=060223_end_attack
By American standards, Chicago has a good transit setup including to a lesser extent in the suburbs. (not including my distaste for the suburban buses that drove me to drive) Chicago gets half its electricity from nukes and most the rest from coal. This is in contrast to California with the NG debacle. In the summer of 1997 Chicago almost had a blackout problem like California due to some nukes being shut off for maintenance. But we didn't.
But only New York has a good-by-European-standards transit setup. Besides Bloomberg getting off his anti-bicycle kick, one thing states can do is relax insurance laws and registration laws for mopeds. In Illinois to have a moped, you must register and insure it practically like a motorcycle. You can use a moped if you have a car drivers licence though. More than hybrid cars, mopeds and scooters are more like the answer for the masses when transit doesn't exist or is too poor to be useful. Hybrids will be too expensive due to energy used in manufacture.
Honolulu? Very dense, great public transportation, but very, very oil dependent. Everything's shipped in. And the major industry is tourism.
Then there's the question of what climate change is going to do coastal cities. Allstate recently announced it would no longer offer insurance in NY, for fear of hurricanes.
I have to agree with you. Don't laugh, but Southern California is only one step away from doing very well in a $100/bbl "crunch". That step is SERIOUS car-pooling.
Otherwise, the mild climate, ports and proximity to the agricultural riches of the San Joaquin Valley makes me feel happy to be in LA rather than NYC.
I also believe that the real "crunch" is far higher than $100/bbl.
You're right about Hawaii and oil dependant offshore inputs, but SustainLane's criteria did not go tothe level of doing a local/regional metbolistic analysis, which would be super costly to do across largest 50 US cities, don't you think?
Argument #1: New York sits as the peak of the pyramid atop our hierarchal economic system. It sucks off surpluses by directing activity on a large scale. As such, as economic activity is forced to decentralized, the negative economic impact, especially in the international trade and finance areas, will be disproportionately felt in NYC. Macroeconomic decline will be amplified in the control centers of the macroeconomy.
Argument #2: New York is an amazing concentration of people in a small area. As a result, it must draw its basic resources, such as food, from a larger area than must other population centers that are not so amazingly huge and concentrated. Drawing resources, such as food, from further distance requires more energy, and will result in a disproportionate cost increase for places such as NYC that must draw from, on average, a greater distance.
I would argue about the distance issue you set-up in Arg #2. It's not just the distance, it's the mode of transport. In terms of energy efficiency Ships are the best, Rail is next and then Trucks. In fact you can use wind power for ships! NYC has a world class harbor, connected to the Hudson River / Erie canal connection to Great Lakes and some good rail connections (although most of those are used for moving people now). That will be it's greatest advantage in the future.
I will provide personal simple example:
I work in Microsoft (in Redmond) and the distance from home to office is 5 minutes walk. I take children to school ( 1.5 miles ) and I can do it by foot. My wife does not work.
I need car to go to supermarket. Currely out gasoline consumption is is about 40 gallons a month, but it can be made 20.
Climate in Redmond is mild, we do not need air conditioning in summer and winter is relative warm, all heating is by electricity.
So looks like personally we are not much dependent on fossil fuels.
But the problem is - what happens with Microsoft once ( I do not say if ) oil goes to $100 a barrel. I am 100% dependent on my employment and that creates major dependency on oil economy. Microsoft products are not essential, if one does not have bread he does not by OS.
The same problem for NYC. Wall street depends on Microsoft and other stocks.
Igor.
By way of another personal example, I live in Manhattan. My office is 175 paces away. The 24-hour supermarket is 125 paces away, and the 16-hour supermarket about the same distance away in a different direction. My bank is 200 paces away, and within that distance are a dozen restaurants and delis, two bars, a dry cleaners, an optometrist and a hardware store. My monthly gasoline consumption is 0 gallons.
Many New Yorkers like me consume an order of magnitude less oil than car dependent suburban and exurban dwellers. Getting food to the supermarkets is probably the weak link in the cain, but as long as it is there, the urban walkable lifestyle looks a lot more sustainable to me than the car dependent/suburban motoring existence prevalent in most places. New York is subject to other problems, but personal transportation is not one of them.
Walkable city and car-dependent suburb are equally dependent on trucked-in food, but the city has the advantage of cheaper distribution once it's dropped off at the store.
Overall, Brooklyn, Queens & Staten Island can be quite energy efficient. Manhatten less so.
BTW, I used 6 gallons/month pre-Katrina in New Orleans (Lower Garden District and as beautiful as the name implies).
New Orleans has superb ocean and barge connections, superb rail connections (6 of the 7 major North American railroads), superb pipeline access as well. Sugar cane nearby (good EROEI), as well as a variety of local foods (the local cuisine is based on local foods and food that floated downstream).
And good food and good music and good friends are ALWAYS a good way to deal with the stress of high oil prices, and we excel there !
On that note, I would re-evaluate the list in the article. Based PURELY on this food/distance/transportation issue, I would list my top four as 1. Portland, 2. San Francisco, 3. Seattle, 4. Oakland. These cities each have agriculturally productive and sparsely populated hinterlands in the very near vicinity. On a full-spectrum analysis of the cities on that list, I personally think that Portland will fare far, far better than NYC...
I do not know what the population of Greater NY is offhand, but the first things that come to mind are:
FOOD: assuming a localised agricultural base: Who would or could grow sufficient food within an area that can support perhaps millions of people from a radius which will enable the food to get into the conurbation? What would Greater NY have to offer in goods or services to make the trade worthwhile for the surrounding Agricultureal base?
How would the Agricultural hinterland be able to grow sufficient crops to ensure that they had enough for themselves and sufficient , regular surpluses to feed Greater NY?
If you look at the development of cities and city states in the near east and eventually in Europe, then compare them with the massive conurbations of the 20th Century, then I think there is fundamental problem with scale.
I believe we would have to trade manufactured goods or some other type of manufacturing products, like in the 19th Century. And all those future sailors are going to want to spend their money somewhere...
They can start by tearing down the McMansions on prime agricultural land...
But: We have never experienced anything like the potentially rapid drop off of energy currently required by modern conurbations created in the 20th Cent. This is not just the case for Greater NY. It is true for all the great conurbations, and this includes Europe where they appear on the surface to be well positioned, but are just as vulnerable. For Example, the Randstad of Holland is a conurbation made up of many towns and cities from Rotterdam to Amsterdam including Den Haag, Lieden, Haarlem
etc. Along side the areal growth (and therefore food miles from any local hinterland), there has been major population growth. Towns and Cities merge into each other.
The same can be said of the Ruhr, Leeds-Glasgow, etc, etc
With respect to a return to manufacturing, as energy depletes so too will any conurbation's ability to manufacture.
Speed of transition will be very important. The statement that Greater NY would do better than others at 100USD BBL oil is actually pretty short term. There is a very good chance of 100 usd / bbl by Xmas... I am sure NY can cope with 100 USD oil. But what about 'some oil', 'increasingly occassional electricty', 'intermittent gas' etc?
The question should really how will NY (and all conurbations) fare when energy and energy imputs are scarce or highly intermittent, access to globalised food is impaired, hinterlands look to themselves for the survival of their own.
Should be "what WAS prime agricultural land". The process of subdivision construction begins with the removal of the top soil (i.e. the high humus fertile layer) for sale "elsewhere". What's put back after the houses are built is just enough to "sort of" grow chemical dependant sod. Where do you think those bags of "good soil" you buy at the Garden Center come from?
Serious shortages would probably have side effects on the reliability of the electrical supply. I wouldn't worry too much about winter, since NYC rarely has anything I now understand as winter (I grew up in NYC but now live in the upper Midwest.) I'd worry a lot more about summer. With unreliable power and steaming hot weather, there's no good way to store food. With repeated blackouts cutting off airconditioning and probably damaging the equipment, it's going to be hotter than Hades inside all those sealed buildings, especially the glass ones. On top of that, with everybody afraid to get into an elevator, you've got lots and lots of thirty and fifty story walkups.
And maybe you've even got pompous Fire Department jackasses trying to order everybody to live out in the street on the grounds that it's somehow "safer" than living in unpowered shelter.
No thank you.
Even if (when) there is a gasoline crunch, you could convert your vehicle to use natural gas if you lived on top of the Barnett Shale.
The ideal situation would be to live in an energy efficient area, with net energy production and local food supplies.
The worst place to live would be in an energy inefficient area, without local energy supplies and without local food supplies. Unfortunately, most of the US falls into two or three of these categories. This suggests the possibility, or probability, of mass migrations into the more favorable areas. And I would expect to see this phenomenon on a global basis. I would further expect that the people migrating in may not be welcomed with open arms.
Note that California is a net food importer and note that they also fail regarding the other two criteria--energy efficiency and net energy. One could reasonable conclude that this is good time to get the hell out of LAX.
The real problem is consumption. LA is not merely sprawling, it is high in density as well. So you have all of the disadvantages of a large conurbation (overpopulation, lack of empty land) with none of the advantages (highly developed public transportation). Decreasing oil consumption just doesnt work in a region where nothing is convenient to anything else and even the poor can (and do) drive. So despite CA's above average production, it is wastefully consumed because of their poor land use decisions.
Over the long haul water and food is a far more serious concern than oil. Currently 20% of the entire state's power consumption is used to move water. That's huge. It covers all aspects from pumping to disposal and all steps in between. Water is brought in from hundreds of miles away (Southern CA drinks from water tapped by Sacramento, Owens Valley and the Colorado River). Water from Sacramento has to be pumped over a 4000 foot mountain range. Thats bad. What's worse is close to half of the state's generation is Natural gas fired and a good portion of the rest is coal and nuclear fired, with most of the coal plants actually located in Nevada. Only 20-25% is hydro and wind. While that figure could probably be increased, covering the depleting NG portion is going to be "stressful" as one CA utility representative explained it to me. So forget about desalination, just maintaining the existing water distribution system may be close to impossible. Without water, life in LA is close to impossible. So is imperial and San Joaquin valley agriculture.
With scant water and land too dry to support many types of ag (San Joaquin valley can support dry land farming crops) Southern CA is just a milder version of Phoenix or Las Vegas. I just dont see how these problems can be resolved.
The farther North you go, the better it gets. The only part of CA I would consider living in is the 101 corridor north of the Bay area. Smaller population, sufficient rainfall and viable ag operations. The Bay area may be able to handle $100 oil fairly well as public transit is better. Unless rail transport of food from the Sacramento and northern San Joaquin can be worked out however, I would still avoid the Bay area over the long haul as well.
I think the biggest problem BY FAR in the post-peak world is freight truck traffic. Just about all grocery stores in the US depend on it for delivery, as do the producers of grocery goods. My company, Coca-Cola, wouldn't even be able to function without the ability to truck their product from plant to store. So really, it won't matter where you live if the grocers start shutting down. Either everyone will need to pick up gardening lickity-split or some serious chaos is gonna happen.
As for California, hailing originally from a farmtown in Northern California myself, it should really be seen as two separate states: NorCal and SoCal. Southern California will fare about as well as Phoenix (especially considering that much of its agricultural water is provided either by a canal from the north or by a few massive reclamation projects). Northern California will fare much better--in my opinion--though not necessarily very well. The Central Valley of California is probably the most productive and fertile agricultural zone in the nation--but right now, because of its excellent soil and climate, it is largely used for high-value (but low calorie) cash-crop production. Production, especially of crops like berries and tomato, might not last, but California actually exports rice to China and Japan...
I have done a few math calculations to show what lies ahead for the US.
From BrotherKornhoer's earlier posting:
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To reach 0.5 billion by 2100 at a steady rate is a decrease of 2.7% a year, by my calculation.
From a photo caption in this month's National Geographic article on the Ukraine:
Dying of AIDS, a prisoner lies in a clinic in Odesa. The disease's rapid spread, as well as alcoholism, poor health care, emigration, and low birthrates, are projected to shrink Ukraine's population 40 percent by 2050.
This could be a mild preview of what we're facing in the industrialized countries, minus the emigration, of course.
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My calcs:
6.5 billion world pop X .027 = 175,500,000 of first year postPeak deaths or 1 year equivalent of 2 or 3 WWIIs [a 4 year long war of approx 60 million deaths]. That means we will see some pretty upsetting media headlines every year of the postPeak decline. Yikes!
From CIA website for Ukraine:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/up.html
population: approx. 47,500,000 40% of this is 19 million people dying leaving 28.5 million alive by 2050. If the same death rate comes to America: 40% of 300 million = 120 million deaths leaving 180 million alive by 2050. 2050-2007= 43 years of dying 120/43= 2.79 million/year.
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_metropolitan_area
The basic Phx,AZ area roughly approximates the 2.79 mil/year. So imagine losing a major US population area every year between now and 2050. Isn't math fun for illustrating the conflict levels ahead?
So imagine some kind of precipitating event [drought?]making the people equivalent of the entire Phx area start heading to my hypothetical future biosolar habitats of the NW or NE US. Seattle is approx. 600,000. In just the first year alone [2007], the migration from the Phx area would vastly swamp this city. Then, in 2008, the entire Tucson area migration would hopelessly swamp it again if the NW allowed these people in. Then, in 2009, the entire Albequerque area migration would hopelessly swamp it again if the NW area allowed these people in too...and so on every year. Imagine the LA & San Diego areas vacating to these biosolar habitats-- Does everyone now see the need for Earthmarines to protect these biosolar areas from being hopelessly overrun? Fortunately, most people will be forced to die in place--picture Nawlins without any outside help.
"We see the rising floodwaters, hoping the others drown first."
Population control and Powerdown are the better alternatives to reduce the mind-boggling levels of violence ahead.
Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?
Why does the world's population have to get to 500 million by 2100? Show me the proof! Why can't a population of 2, 3 or even 4 billion live sustainably on this planet?
Remember, we will have less oil not no oil.
Yes, the world's population may decline over the next few decades (especially in the poorer countries), but to suggest that we will have a die-off rate of 2.7% per year after Peak Oil is just ridiculous.
"I say, chaps! Looks like world Oil production peaked last year! I better pop my clogs, then!"
Please keep your theoretical, numerical death-wishing to yourself, unless you have credible evidence to back up the claims (Note: another doomer's comments on this, or any other blog, is not credible evidence).
I do find it interesting, however, that the demographic collapse in the Ukraine is taking place in a society that's literate, educated, has discos, some industry, etc. (at least according to the Nat'l Geo article). It's not some fire and brimstone armmegeddon, or a land of desperate peasants trying to grow crops in the mud with their bare hands (although there is a remarkably sad photograph of an old couple trying to plow their garden without a tractor or draft animal)...it's just the weight of countless small things, mainly associated with decreasing wealth, that lead to the population collapse.
The other reasons are mostly health-related, but as Cuba showed, life after oil could be even healthier than it was pre-oil.
If the choice is between starving and working my butt off in the fields with the rest of the agrarian 90% of the population, then I know which one I'll choose.
Of course, the doomers are free to choose their 'sit down in a corner and chant "Waily, waily"' lifestyle. They will certainly be helping to prove their own predictions of peak-related die-off, when their last breath leaves their lungs.
Thxs for responding. TOD does an excellent job, maybe the best on the Net, in studying the Thermo-half of Jay's voluminous Thermo-Gene Collision as explained in the hundreds of pages on Dieoff.com. I am just trying to increase the TOD discussion level on the Gene-half with all my postings on how global warming, topsoil depletion, water shortages, species extinction, human overpopulation, voluntary birth control, lifeform migrations, pollution, humanure, etc,.. all the stuff of life that is NOT directly related to fossil fuel thermodynamics and entropy, but IS directly related to the biological inevitability of Overshoot and Dieoff.
I feel most TOD posters are overlooking the incredible DOUBLE-WHAMMY headed our way. Thermo-decline as we head down the backside of the Hubbert Curve is directly overlaid another force of genetic-decline. Recall my previous posts explaining in simplified terms of a detritus-driven 'humanimal ecosystem' that is energetically superimposed on top of the natural ecosystem, but has a profound terra-forming capability to massively distort the pace and spacing of naturally occuring equilibrium. After the Peak when thermo-decline kicks in; when the artificial 'humanimal ecosystem' starts dissolving towards its natural biosolar equilibration level; the now distorted ENTIRE WORLD natural ecosytem will be going through a wrenching process of equilibration too.
Thus, the DOUBLE_WHAMMY; the Thermo-Gene Collision. The cross-cascading deleterious feedbacks from both systems will synchronize causing further depletion of both extractable mineral resources and harvestable bioresources [and Global Warming only makes the situation worse, IMHO, a possible Triple_Whammy?]. We are all familiar with the Hubbert Curve, but most TODers are unaware that a similar genetic declination curve exists for biota too.
From Reg Morrison, author of "Plague Species" and "The Spirit in the Genes":
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That being said, there are two things I am very sure of:
(1) our species is an entirely typical product of the evolutionary
process, with no qualifying ifs or buts;
(2) our exponential population growth last century indicates that we
have been in plague mode for at least a couple of centuries (and
possibly for the past 5-8 thousand agricultural years).
These two facts, combined with the Chaotic nature of cosmic entropy
(and therefore, the Gaian nature of the biosphere), persuade me that we
will follow the general pattern of post-plague collapse that was
originally identified in rodents by the Austro-Canadian endocrinologist
Hans Selye in 1936. He called it the General Adaptation Syndrome (GAS).
The broad spectrum of increasing social and physical aberration that
Selye outlined in the GAS included a general decrease in the level of
bonding (family and tribal), an increasing incidence of aggression and
gratuitous violence, and an increasing incidence of sexual dysfunction,
both physical and mental.
These factors combine to produce a general decrease in fecundity,
resulting in a precipitous decline in population growth. Part of this
population collapse is due to a rising number of hormonal aberrations
that interfere with the complex processes of reproduction. In
combination, this spectrum of GAS factors constitutes an efficient
plague-limiting mechanism that automatically cut in to stall the
population explosion before it entirely destroyed the habitat for a
significant number of other species. (Evolutionarily adaptive!) And
judging by field evidence from mammal plagues, this GAS mechanism
begins BEFORE the deteriorating environment tightens the screws enough
to ensure a full population collapse.
Selye's original hypothesis has been corroborated by many other field
and lab studies, and he later extended it to our species.
Another significant feature of this evolutionary mechanism is that when
Selye's GAS combines with the habitat destruction that inevitably
follows a population explosion the resulting population collapse
mirrors the exponential growth that produced it. Hence, a Bell-curve
graph.
So to answer your question (at last!!), I believe that our species will
express whatever level of discord is required to disable our attempts
to deflect (via technological and cultural means) the environmental
backlash that our overpopulation and consumptive technoculture has
engendered. In other words a few people will accept Powerdown, but most
won't, and levels of cultural disintegration, gratuitous violence, and
sexually related dysfunction will rise dramatically as total per capita
energy (nutrient + commercial) becomes scarce.
Some more info taken from his website:
Judging by the recent collapse in our growth rate however, our boom phase has run its course; and this is where it gets interesting. It is clearly not the environment that initiates population collapse, as the Reverend Malthus warned in 1798 in his seminal essay on population. There is another factor: it is built into genetic material and operates by pulling a series of hormonal levers. First described in 1936 by endocrinologist Hans Selye, this auto-collapse mechanism, known as the General Adaptive Syndrome (GAS), [5] is common in rodents, and appears to represent an evolutionary fail-safe mechanism that prevents plague populations from totally destroying their environment and bringing down multitudes of associated species. It now seems that GAS manages plagues of all kinds--bacteria, locusts, deer, rodents, and if the United Nations data are correct, even humans."
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Reg Morrison regularly converses with Jay Hanson, and other Dieoffers at Jay's yahoo:Dieoff_Q&A forum. Yes, he is very Peakoil aware, see his website:
http://www.regmorrison.id.au/
So now we know that we are genetically inclined to collapse, but we must add the biosolar collapse component and the detritus-driven collapse component too to get the full sum for the Thermo-Gene Collision.
The biosolar collapse component is best exemplified by two Dieoff examples whereby neither had any fossil fuels or predation worries:
http://dieoff.com/page80.htm
http://dieoff.com/page145.htm
From studying the graphs and descriptions, it is easy to see how fast a species, human or otherwise, can decline when deprived of essential nutrients. Humans make this declination rate even worse by attacking each other vs the reindeer just shivering and starving to death. Remember, in both examples: each species was biosolar constrained, no fossil fuels to further distort the natural ecosystem and extend Overshoot to an even loftier level.
So now we come to the final additive quantity of the humanimal ecosystem and its possible effects:
The extrasomatic 'reach' of detritus-driven tech can vastly extend and accelerate the coming decline. A sniper rifle is unquestionably far superior to a spear in terms of numbers killed and distance killed. Please multiply by tens of millions being used postPeak, not only on other humans, but also to decimate other lifeforms when our 1,500 mile avg. foodstuffs become unavailable. Conventional warhead bombs and Nuclear ICBMs are notorious for their kill ratios too. This is just the offensive component.
The other defensive detritus-driven component is when our infrastructure starts breaking down. Picture Nawlins without any pre-hurricane evacuation--what a mess that would be! For example, when the water delivery system of the Central Arizona Project [CAP] breaks down in my home of Phx, this can vastly add to the conflict & death rate.
But let's not forget Duncan's Oluvai Gorge Theory either:
http://dieoff.com/page125.htm
This is just another example of how collapsing detritus-driven systems can combined with the other additive effects previously mentioned to drive us to a sustainable level in a very short timeframe. Last, but not least, imagine the deathrate if the scientists join with the world's power elites to release smallpox or ebola as some have suggested.
In summary, I encourage all posters to try and include both sides of the Thermo-Gene Collision while composing their next articles. We are going to burn all the fossil fuels we can, but the Gene-half is where all the action will be.
Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?