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Yankee on October 6, 2005 - 1:09pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Later tonight and tomorrow peakguy and I will comment on people like John Darnell (Bartlett's science advisor) and David Pimentel (a Cornell biologist who's an expert on organics and alternative energy). These are people that I trust you will find more credible--the whole conference wasn't the extremes (but they're more fun to write about).

I strongly disagree that just by mentioning people like Ruppert, we're doing either peak oil or the website a disservice. As I said in the other thread, many people are coming to the topic on the basis of Ruppert's and Kunstler's writing. It's up to a webiste like this one for people to point out where their arguments go wrong, if you think they do. I DO NOT think that appropriate action is just to ignore them, at least not right now when we're still desperate for the issue to be getting more national attention. If you think they're wrong, explain why.

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Jack on October 6, 2005 - 1:27pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I agree that "just mentioning people like Ruppert" doesn't do TOD or peak oil a diservice. But when 30% of the thread is rants on the US government blowing up the World Trade Center, you have wandered deep into lunacy and are clearly undermining efforts to make peak oil mainstream. I believe in peak oil and  love TOD, but reading that comment stream really makes me doubt the motives and judgement of a huge segment of the movement. It is going to send others running and they will never come back.
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JLA on October 6, 2005 - 6:58pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I have to agree with Jack here.  As I said in my comment to Prof G's earlier post on Ruppert/FTW, a serious discussion of the lunatic fringe just leaves behind a stain here at TOD, and undermines the site's credibility.  

There are enough serious scholars and commentators out there that we shouldn't have to wander down these dark alleys of conspiracy fantasy.  
   

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