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Stuart Staniford on November 15, 2005 - 2:51pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
wigz: You're kind of getting way irrelevant here.
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wigz on November 15, 2005 - 9:39pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Stuart hey guy,
Regarding Matt Simmons and his relationship with
VP Cheney/Haliburton and the Bush Administration in
general; does it not seem odd-coincidental for MS to
be taking the charge and exposing Saudia Arabias
dirty laundry?

Does not the light shed imply - passing the buck -
(blame game) at least in the sense the White House
can claim to have been a victim of false energy hope
(available information)?

Thanks to TITD The spinsters can plead the case that we
(U.S government) were victims dupped by a
fly by night scam of non existing available
production. Shame on Saudi

Certainly could make sense to some simple folks
Who trust their government. Again a possible example
of the U.S military complexes lack of responsibility,
again only more thought that the Government itself
is the true disease and Peak Oil a symptom of this
tragedy of the commons.

I love the inputs of fact finding and scientific
prisims... but, rationale par excellence
is not forth coming.
In other words bunk.
Bunk that the agenda is and or ever will be for
some guy sitting behind a computer with an income
near the poverty level. Ironic ...yes poverty and
technology. The AGENDA is more to the effect that my
children enroll in a society whos doctrine
graciously compells them to die heros! BUNK !!!

Thanks for acknowledging my ranting wit.

flame on !!!

Think small, think fast, peace

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Fire Temple on November 16, 2005 - 12:58am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
There is deffinitely a bit of "blame the Saudis" (or Persian Gulf producers in general) going on in the Simmons camp.  The basis for that, of course, is that they are not open about their oil production/reserves numbers.

However, the real "bad guy" in Twilight in the Desert is not the Saudis but the Aramco of the 1970's (which was an American company, a JV between Exxon, Mobil, Chevron, and Texaco).  It is Aramco who irresponsibly advocated premature water injection, shriking ultimate recoveries for short term production volumes.

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wigz on November 16, 2005 - 7:56am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Fire Temple hi...
I understand that and as critical as i am of
big government > I wonder what incentives and
other contributing Factors
(20/20 hindsight blunders)
could be found.

"I need the facts,just the facts mam."

But that is all ancient history and rather moot.
The situation at hand is worth seriously questioning.
Why? Do people desire to be manipulated...
Does the news reporting media really have a responsibility
to inform factual information? After all observation
of most news channel viewing of others(by myself)
reveals how it is all very entertaining, and
(entertainment is very big biz in this country) the
biggie news networks supply an individual with lots
of water cooler tid bits. Aren't we all armchair
quarterbacks, mostly everyone has an answer!?

I am still awaiting the topless female News anchor.
giving -
  "Glued to the Boob Tube!"
**TRUE meaning.**

Think fast, think small, peace

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step back on November 16, 2005 - 9:00am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
There is definitely a bit of "blame the Saudis" ... going on in the Simmons camp.

"Blame" is a phony noise that humanoids make into the wind after SHTF (sh*t hits fan) so they can decide in a "fair" way who to kill off once the system no longer can support the entire population or the current status quo.

"Blame" is part of a primitive making of sacrifice to appease the gods.

It's really a waste of time and energy for us to play the Blame Game.

We are where we are.
How do we go forward?

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wigz on November 16, 2005 - 3:02pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
If blame is primative what is persecution?

Blame is placed where accountability is missing.
I feel blame is very modern. It is civil critisism.
Blame can be a fact finding venture?
Perhaps... blame is misplaced on most occasions.

Lets go get a dictionary...

Simply my friend blame is -

"To find fault (error) with."

How do we go forward?

Well if I know the system errors I can correct them.

One whom is on the edge should be aware of which
direction they are facing before stepping back.

Ancient North American Indians knew that in order to
destroy (rid) the entire tree (problem) > permantly <(solve)
it must be cut at the roots (Solved).

I blame the roots for the leaves , branches growth.

Huuummn... some could say its the Suns fault
or the rains or mine for mentioning it.

Yawn... Or still it is no ones and nothings.
No problems - worries / No body - crime

think small, think fast, PeAcE

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light299 on November 17, 2005 - 4:18pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Not placing blame simply allows those who are at fault to continue as before. (No blame serves those in power)
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step back on November 17, 2005 - 6:14pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
"Blame" serves those in power because they always manage to direct the fickle of finger of blame away from themselves.

Almost all despotic governements manage to find some scape goat to make the "ultimate sacrifice" in place of themselves.

Do you honestly believe "The buck stops here"?

When was the last time it really really did?

Picture this:
Cheney comes on TV:
"Dear sucker citizens. Yes we did have a secret meeting to divie up the oil fields of Iraq even before Kerry voted for invading the country (that being before he voted not to invade the country --or was it the other way around?). You got me with my buns showing. I am guilty. I lied. I cheated. I almost got away with it. By the way let Scooter out of jail. It was me who takes the "blame" for Plame-gate. The buck stops here. I take full blame. I duped the Dems. They were easy to dupe. They are "intellectual" dopes. I duped America. I take the blame. I fall on my sword. Don't blame the Bush boy. He is an imbicile. Thank you and God bless."

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Engineer-Poet on November 17, 2005 - 1:45am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Pumping the oil faster meant that Saudi Arabia got less money for it.  Since they seem to be spending it on terrorism, this might have been a good thing.
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