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Congratulations, I hope those 50$ can be proved well spent. I considered doing that myself, but instead I downloaded the BP data.
Can you do me a favor (and to the rest of us)? Could you compare OGJ data with BP's? You can use the ASPO's newsletters to subtract the Gas Liquids from BP (for instance nº 59 states 6.3 Gb in 2000 and 8.0 Gb in 2005).
In what concearns Saudi Arabia I believe they already peaked, and are producing below the 'model' peak, creating an artificial plateau. The 200 Gb seems a quite good number, no way to prove it though.
A surprise colapse like last week's Burgan field can be expected in Saudi Arabia any moment now.
On IOR and EOR I'd advise everyone to take a look at the graph in page 40 of Koppelar's latest report.
In my humble point of view the Hubbert method is the best tool we have to predict the Oil Peak.
Happy Thanksgiving to all the folk in the ex-colonies.
Several months ago we discussed the Monte Carlo simulations run by the USGS in 2000 that automagically "found" about 1 trillion barrels of yet to be discovered or recoverable oil. In the report referened above you can find out a little more about that method and its failure so far (over the past 5 years) to even come close to reality.
The authors note tht the 95% scenario of USGS is closest to reality. As I recall, when reading the 2000 USGS report, this model pretty much conforms to predictions by ASPO and like mided modelers.
For those who want to have at the USGS 2000 estimates: try this link Note: their predictions for natural gas are here too.
As far as the Saudi numbers go, it's not clear but when you add in the Hubbert Linearization done here previously for Saudi Arabia, I wonder if that rise above the line is like the East Texas line, rising due to managing the tail but not really indicative of more URR?
Given the Saudis inability or reluctance to increase production the last few years despite much rhetoric about doing so, those Hubbert Linearizations make interesting points of speculation. I also saw the recent Saudi request for a "roadmap" of future oil demand as a bit of politcal posturing enabling them to avoid (once again) raising production by throwing the issue back at the consuming nations.
Thanks for pointing this out, I will change this in the next revised version (Due to be out in January or February probably) as soon as the new production numbers from the IEA statistics arrive.
Of course actual demand and output may be wrong, but what is most striking is that crude output is nearly always above refinery capacity. Crude that can't be refined has no value (well, not today), so if this case is valid product prices should rise (refinery capacity remains lower than the 1% demand assumption until mid 2009) while crude should fall. Mid-2009 is also when refinery capacity exceeds crude output, so crude prices would be expected to resume climbing at this point.
THis helps explain Saudi complaints regarding the west's failure to expand refinery capacity in line with their own demand growth, and also explains their own plans to add refineries. And, it might explain oil companyies' reluctance to expand theirs; refineries' profits are growing sharply while the major's crude output is beginning to decline. It is OPEC that hurts - they might have to cut output to maintain prices. OTOH, peak is delayed while high product prices encourage thrift.
It would be great if future peak models include refinery capacity.
Prices are down supposedly on account of warm weather, but there may already be more crude in US storage than refineries want, particularly now with futures prices lower than spot. Refineries are flat out, and would be regardless of weather. There could easily be more crude produced than can be stored this winter just as many freeze on account of too little heating oil.
The market links crude with product, so crude rises when product rises, which would be ok if refineries could handle as much crude as is now being produced. Note that OPEC had excess capacity, so could handle excess demand from China and others, but the world does not have sufficient refineries to process the excess demand. Saudi is right, complaining that the problem is too little refineries rather than too little crude.
The "turbulent" chart (which may or may not have the correct assumptions, but there is probably more certainty regarding future refinery capacity than onset of peak oil) shows 2009 to be the critical year, with refineries catching up with demand just as lack of crude takes over the bottleneck role. This chart strongly predicts higher product prices and lower crude prices to mid-2009, meaning the downstream end will do better than the upstream end.