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They must have received their first big heating bill recently, because their heat wasn't on for a couple of days. Of course, it slowly but surely went back up to 80 over the next day or two.
I'm an ex-pat Brit who moved here to marry a lovely American girl. I still don't understand the American psyche regarding energy saving. I'll wear socks/slippers/thermal underwear + an outer layer in the apartment and I'm comfortable if the apartment is 55. My wife and friends refuse to wrap up!
Not really being old enough to remember the 70s (born in '74), I have to ask: Did the UK have much more of an energy problem than the US? Is that why (at least some) UK folks will wear extra clothing to save on fuel costs? Or is it a more long term thing, stretching back to WW2?
Which leads me to my next thought: How did USians in the depression and UKians in WW2 heat their homes? I'm assuming PO will lead to similar conditions to these two periods, so perhaps there are lessons to be learned...
Everyone always says red wine is best served at room temperature. I always thought that advice was a bit odd, because it actually tastes best slightly chilled. Then I went to Europe, and realized that "room temperature" in Europe is "slightly chilled" in the U.S.
What I want to know is why British windows never have screens in them. It's a lot more pleasant to leave your windows open if there are screens to keep the bugs out.
As for the Depression...that was really still the dawn of the Age of Oil. Country folk could burn wood for heat. City folk would walk along the railroad tracks and pick up coal that fell off the trains.
The brick walls and coal fires I mentioned in an earlier post mean that many houses are hard to heat. I did not live in a house with a central heating system to 1960 and it was fairly rare at the time. Although there were often fireplaces in each room by the end of the war coal was expensive and only one fire was usually lit. The boomer generation grew up in cold houses for the most part. Schools, factories and churches were likewise cold.
Older houses were even colder. The thatched timber frame houses shown in tourist books have glazed windows and ceilings. The older ones were not built that way. They had open windows with wooden 'mullion' bars across them and leather curtains across them at night. The floor was solid earth. There was no ceiling and the smoke from an open fire escaped through a hole in the roof. Such houses were common in rural areas up to 1700. Visitors to England might like to visit the open air museum at Singleton SW of London to see such houses restored to what they were like when they were built.
An acquaintance of mine is a chemistry professor at a Scottish university. He lectured once in California showing slides of his work with 12°C (54°F) given among the reaction conditions. His talk was well received but was asked at the end how he refrigerated his apparatus. It did not occur to his audience that in a cash strapped Scottish university imbued with a Calvinist frame of mind 12°C is room temperature.
Screens are not common because to our perception bugs are not common enough to cause a problem
In the days when it was quite common not have a refrigerator (up to 1965) screened larders were common but not other rooms.
When the oil shock of 1973 hit (and I think there was a brief miners and / or dockers strike thrown in for good measure) there was a period of a month or two during the winter when we had planned rolling power cuts. The 3 day week was to minimise energy consumption by partially closing down industries and workplaces.
It was all quite romantic, no TV, candles, huddling together to keep warm, 'save water - bath with a friend', etc. Hence the noticeable spike in UK birth rates that followed 9 months later. :-)))
It would be a lot less pleasant without hot meals.
No central heating.
The curtains were of a thick material to keep the warmth in the rooms. I can recall opening my bedroom curtains on many a winter morning to see ice on the INSIDE of the window.
Taking a bath in a tub of water that was hot but cooling all the time was interesting. The move from the tub to the towel through the cold air of the bathroom was the most critical move.
I don't think we were the only ones. The WSJ had a wonderful page one column several years ago about the joys of taking a bath in England in the winter.
My central heating and hot water boiler died 2 years ago and I decided to see how I would manage without it.
I have one small thermostatic fan heater which stops me from freezing downstairs, lol, and a small convector heater in my bedroom to warm my pyjamas or if it drops well below freezing outside.
Guess what? I've acclimatised. I need almost no heating. I live in a 1930s semi-detached house with minimal insulation, I'm sitting here in my pyjamas at past 3am with outside temp about 5 C (40 F) and I feel fine. You think I must be bonkers, maybe so. I guess the inside temp is about 50 to 55 F (10 to 12 C) and I would be fairly comfortable naked.
About 30 years ago there was a UK TV prog where people had to live like the late stone age - seriously, they had to grow their own food, solve their health probs, live in appropriate tech roundhouses, FOR A YEAR. Now that's what I call reality TV. They were debriefed a year after returning to modern life and the overwhelming thing they'd had a problem with was heat! They felt uncomfortable living in modern domestic temperatures.
I promptly covered both sides of the doorwall with heat-shrink plastic film, making it triple-pane. It still got some frost on the frame during the depths of winter, but overall it was far better than before. Amazing how far a little cleverness will take you.
Unfortunately the mines in the UK are closed and sealed and so it would be very difficult to return to those days, especially since the current estimate of reserves is not that great.