I've invested in Oil futures for about a year now.  In the runup to $70, I made 25K, in the rundown to where it is now, I lost 25K.  Basically, I'm at breakeven now, but I'm holding two long positions (one 2008 and one 2011), and am holding those as investments that I think will eventually pay off.

Philip

That's very interesting, Philip. I've been wanting to get into the futures market as well. I was about to do it a few months ago but then the investment company (Refco) went bankrupt out from under me! So that's made me a little gunshy, but I do intend to try again after the new year.

I'd probably do a very similar investment to what you are talking about, just one or two contracts, several years out. The main alternative would be to buy some out-of-the-money call options, it would be less money up front and no margin calls, but a greater chance of losing everything. At least with your positions, if oil ends up where it is now you don't lose anything.

Do you mind saying how happy you are with your broker? I'm worried about getting into a relationship where they are trying to get me to churn my account. Like you I would be looking for a buy and hold situation, which is not what futures brokers are used to.

Halfin,

I initially started brokering with Lind-Waldock.  Then Refco purchased them, then Refco went bankrupt and The MAN GROUP purchased them, and decided on naming them Lind-Waldock once again.  I pay $60/round turn for each contract traded.  I've been pressured and have caved to buying close in contracts, but just keep in mind that brokers are salesmen, nothing more.  They don't know the market or your strategy.  Stick with your strategy, and if you are upfront with your strategy with your broker, they won't harass you everyday.  However, when first opening your account, you may want to say that you trade quite a bit, so you get a better trading rate.

Also, you have a great chance of losing everything whether you do options or not.  Even if you are long only one contract, every dollar fluctuation in the market represents $1,000 of your money.  It's actually possible to buy crude-minis, which represent just $500 of your money, but those are only for the close-in months.  You can buy a contract for as little as $10,000, but if the price goes down just $5, they'll liquidate your account and you're screwed.  You need to make sure you have enough wiggle room, and that's why I'm only long 1 or 2 contracts, so I can afford it if it goes down 5 or even 10 dollars.

Philip

I use Interactive Brokers (www.interactivebrokers.com), although I may be changing to Tradestation in the near future.  Interactive Brokers is a fantastic broker and they give you access to just about any financial instrument you want for minimal commissions.  They are also big - they were trying to buy Refco as well.  NYMEX futures, for instance, can be traded for $2.95/contract one way ($5.90 roundtrip).

Just thought it might be helpful - I'm a customer of IB, but have no other affliation.  Feel free to ignore!

If you are so happy with IB why are you thinking of changing to Tradestation? Better software, service, etc.? Thanks
SOme US E&P's are, in my view, a better investment than futures. Several will do very well at $50 oil, so don't depend on higher prices, and a few are growing both production and reserves. I suggest gmxr, ard and gpor, in that order. (All three doubled net income 3q/2q, but gpor took a hit from Rita that will cut production drastically 4q, should be back very strong 1q06.) I expect all will at least double next year.  I have a lot in the first two, will be back into gpor next spring.