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You also left off that he took a few digs at Peak Oilers:
Overall it is a colorful bit of curmudgeonry but IMO not that helpful except to remind us that predictions on all sides have a pretty bad track record in this field.
As for IEA predictions, which is the topic of this thread, yes the IEA has a pretty bad track record but it is consistently bad in one direction only. It's not random noise where they are too optimistic one year and too pessimistic another. There is a specific trend here that can be shown from observing their predictions against actuals for several years. And that trend reinforces the concerns of peak oilers while it also discredits cornucopians who rely on those same IEA optimistic predictions that everything will be ok.
If you want to slap around someone for the content of those comments, why not drop Adam Porter an e-mail? From what little contact I've had with him he seems to be a level-headed guy, and very open to communication with readers/listeners.
And for that matter, I'm with Halfin 100% on this one. Porter's comments weren't what I would consider helpful, but it's certainly true that you can find a LOT of wildly off-base predictions on all sides of the peak oil debate.
I get the sense that some making comments here think TOD is in the prediction business too (not thinking of you, Halfin). We're not. This tends to be a news, information and analysis site--I think this approach is its principal virtue. To my knowledge, no editor or contributor (including me) at TOD has made any specific prediction about the timeframe for peak oil and the demise of civilization as we know it. Speaking personally, I vacillate on this all the time. There are lots of other peak oil websites you can visit if you want dire predictions of imminent doom but I won't be naming names here. However, TOD is not one of them.
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This is exaggerated, as far as I can tell. Have look at IEA's 1996 world oil production forecasts. They were/are far more accurate than those of the peak oil community. Check the following figures, copied from Freddy Hutter's `Trendlines':
http://www.globalidiot.net/PeakOil02.html
Freddy's original contribution is to be found here:
http://www.trendlines.ca/economic.htm#ASPO
Perhaps I am mistaken about this and have made some awful gaffe -- if so, enlightenment most welcome!
I personally think the state of understanding of bottom-up projection, on both sides of the debate, is marred by a very inadequate picture of decline rates. Only as we are able to reduce that uncertainty will we be in a position to make better predictions.
I don't scare easily but I am fearful that decline rates will be significantly higher than expected on the major FIP, given the recovery techniques used lately. The initial cliff off PO might be surprisingly steeper than expected. I'm hoping that I have 4 or 5 more years to get organised but there is too good a chance it could hit sooner and fast.
When I look into the future I'm finding a bifurcation around late March 2006 (yes, being 'strange' on this). It's like there are two main probable futures, one where the shit hits fan bigtime, one where it poodles on as presently. They seem about 40% / 60% so far, it will get clearer as that time approaches. I've never felt this extremity of divergence before and what I 'see' frankly scares me. Things seem to come back together about 4 to 5 years hence but that isn't positive, they come together on the worse path. Seems if we dodge the bad outcome in a few months time it will impose itself later. I've said too much already.
I'm betting we're in for a liquidity crunch and a deflationary depression that will make peak oil preparations far more difficult. On the upside, if there can be said to be one, demand destruction might bring energy (and other) prices down and delay the peak. The downside is that people's ability to afford energy may fall even more quickly than prices, meaning that prices would still rise for most in real terms.