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Backward induction is a technique to solve a game of perfect information. It first consid-
ers the moves that are the last in the game, and determines the best move for the player
in each case. Then, taking these as given future actions, it proceeds backwards in time,
again determining the best move for the respective player, until the beginning of the game
How much does it take to push people away from their natural strategies?
I have a suggestion for the geologists and petroleum engineers. Figure out what the heck your measurements and estimates mean, and then perfect the formula to eliminate the magical guess work. The more I look at it, the more I seriously think that no one has figured out how to do estimates of oil reservoir volume correctly
It almost sounds as if no one wants to admit that a parabolic growth law has any kind of importance.
And FSU Oil Shock Model here
However, if you discount OPEC reserves by 50%, it becomes clear that we are WELL past that half-way point. So production should have already begun to decline. This suggests that, as widely feared, only the use of water injection and water flood tecniques to keep reservoir pressure artificially high have kept production rates up for the past several years. The problem with this is that when a field who's production rate has been artificially sustained beyond the half-way point finally does begin to decline, its rate of decline tends to be very, very high. 10-18% has been suggested (by Simmons and others) as the decline rate for fields that have been pressed to the limits with injection technologies. This is critical, because while Peak Oil may be a quite manageable problem at 2% depletion, 10%+ depletion means that world production will fall by half in less than 7 years. That would be absolutely catastrophic. No wonder this story isn't available on CNN.
Mobjectivist has the Parabolic Growth Law and Fractional Yearly "Reserve Growth #'s and Jeff Vaill has the Implications.
Game Theory states that we now must assume the worst. Catastrophic oil depletion this year.
We've used 1000 Gb. If we have past 50% some time ago, that means we could be well into the 60s.
1000 /.60 = 1,666.67
1000 /.65 = 1,538.46
1000 /.70 = 1,428.57143
Overall, if we have used 60% of URR, the average decline rate will be much higher than if we were at 50%.
Which is why I asked if most countries use techonology that has delayed their peak...
Also, how much will the countries that are ramping up production offset the decline rate?
I certainly wouldn't compare myself to Hubbert, but I have gotten a small taste of what it must have been like for him to challenge conventional wisdom,
I was at an oil industry meeting last year where a geologist employed by the State of Texas gave a talk debunking Hubbert. Of course I challenged him on it during the Q&A. In response to one my points, he said "Texas may not be able to equal its peak production, but we can certainly get close with better use of technology."
In 33 years, Texas has never shown year over year increases in production, and we are down close to 75% from our peak. It shows how deep the denial is that an allegedly competent scientist can ignore data in front of his face and talk about production increases. Our problem is fields like the East Texas Field, which is now producing 1.2 mbpd of water, with a 1% oil cut. How does high tech help you revive a field that has watered out?
I saw the Enron documentary yesterday. It's a Ten
by the way. See it if you can.
Anyway the movie flashes the book Selfish Genes as a book Skilling runs his life by.
From the book or like minded authors-
We humans are blissfully unaware that we are driven to behave in ways that maximize inclusive fitness. Because of the advantages of unawareness of our own deceptive tactics and of our suspicion, I suggest that innate tendencies made us "embarrassingly stupid" as far as conscious awareness of these facts is concerned.
Evolutionary theory predicts the inherent selfishness of the individual. Therefore, we would not expect communication to develop as a means of informing others of the truth, if such truth gives the recipient an advantage at the expense of the sender. Cronk (1991) suggests to "follow the example of animal behavior studies in seeing communication more as a means to manipulate others than as a means to inform them". In other words, most communication serves for the purpose of social influence, defined as "change in one person's beliefs, attitudes, behavior, or emotions brought about by some other person or persons" (Raven, 1983, p. 8).
This demonstrates that deceit as an influence strategy is neither new nor a human invention. Second, it is likely that humans employ strategies as low as level two (body language signals of strength or submission) or maybe even level one (immature and baby-like facial features in an adult).
In summary, we should expect a good strategists to strive to maintain an image of being a truthful person. He or she should be prepared to deceive whenever it confers a sizable advantage versus a much smaller risk.
It's now obvious that the powers that be got away with the Enron model. Lay and Skilling are big, but they ain't
Chase Morgan or CSFB.
The US has absolutely no intention of slowing "growth"
(the same def as Enron's-whatever we say it is).
We will continue until stopped. By PO, Climate Change, or nuking Iran.
For example: I recently listened to a debate between a Peak Oiler and an Abundant Oiler from an Art Bell radio show from about a month ago. My wife said that she thought the Abundant Oiler won the debate, and I have to say that most unknowledgeable people would probably feel the same. The Abundant Oiler was lying up a storm, but it was obvious that he was used to this and he had practiced staying calm and beating his message to death. Also, his message induced a very warm, feel-good emotional state of long-term economic stability.
The Peak Oiler had the real data, but I could see how he could easily confuse the average non-technical person. Also, his voice got very shrill as he slowly freaked out at how many lies the Abundant Oiler was making. The tone of his voice and his message induced a state of confusion, insecurity, and irritation.
It was an interesting case of how easily a person ruthless enough to lie like a dog, can beat an honest technical person for the hearts of the average person. In my Neuro Linguistic Programming classes, they used to say that people aren't swayed by reasons, but by their emotional state.
On the other hand, maybe this is a lost cause, and we destined for the hard landing later, instead of the softer landing now. But, I would like to hope that we could do something...like convincing the average person of the reality of PO.
I can believe that some large fields in mid east, like Ghawar, may reach perhaps 70% URR / OOIP so there could be more recoverable oil than you expect.
Though the water cut from Ghawar is about 35% now its rate of increase has been slow, steady and seemingly well managed, it was over 20% 25 years ago.
Russia is just weird, I don't think any relatively simple model will work for it. There could be anything from 50 to 100 billion barrels of URR remaining (80% probability range).
One thing we really need to know more about is how EOR has impacted production rates and decline rates for large fields. I think this will be absolutely critical in attempting to project forward, I too expect some seriously nasty decline rates.
More philosophically, I almost never lie, often manage to go several years without telling even the smallest white lie, one lie a year is a bad record for me. When I do choose to lie it usually causes me considerable trauma both before and after, I almost never lie by mistake since being untrue is now so alien to me. Yet I am very aware of people around me lying continuously, often without being aware they are doing so. Is it me that is sick or them?
I never liked "The Selfish Gene" book or thesis, it is well argued but doesn't ring true. I generally consider the 'common good' above personal benefit, if I could gain 15 at the cost of 10 each losing 2 then I would not do it. But I am very rarely ripped off and can be a very good bargainer and negotiator when needed. Maybe I am a communist who believes in personal freedom, lol.