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But I'd agree you (and we) shouldn't be participating in it - its just a shame we started it in the first place.
I'd also note the criticism you make of "that world" apply equally to us in the west as well - in fact I think we've probably spent a lot more time killing each other over the last 1200 years than they have...
To be fair to the Iraqis it is worth pointing out that
some aspects of ethnic tension and the civil war are a direct result of Western policies that led to the formation of present day Iraq.
A brief reveiw from Wiki:
"Iraq was carved out of the Ottoman Empire by the French and British as agreed in the Sykes-Picot Agreement. On 11 November 1920 it became a League of Nations mandate under British control with the name "State of Iraq".
The British government laid out the political and constitutional framework for Iraq's government. Britain imposed a Hâshimite monarchy on Iraq and defined the territorial limits of Iraq without taking into account the aspirations of the different ethnic and religious groups in the country, in particular those of the Kurds to the north. Britain had to put down a major revolt against its policies between 1920 and 1922. During the revolt, Britain used phosphorus bombs against Kurdish villagers. Legal experts consider phosphorus bombs chemical weapons."
So much for all the railing against Saddam gassing the Kurds to put them in their place.
Although did the British have bombers in 1920-22?
Wikipedia is written by anyone with an internet hookup. Lots of great information marbled with disinformation and mistakes.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200511/s1508598.htm
here is an article on WP use.
They had these aircraft before 1918.
I've read accounts of the Brits experimenting with bomb throwers in 1914 (and they were very pleased with the results). I have no idea how the Brits delivered whatever chemical weapons they may have used, but it doesn't seem like planes were necessary to accomplish the task.
Winston Churchill was actually behind the exercise, which has led plenty of people to compare Saddam to Churchill...
While you can doubt Wikipedia, it is no different to any other publication at the end of the day - history is rewritten again and again - and biased reporting and propaganda are just as likely to appear in the Washington Times or on Fox News (or Prensa Latina or the World Socialist website if you want to go the other way) as they are on Wikipedia (which at least tries to be objective and has accompanying debate and citations with each article).
Here's some history from a Kurdish web site, who presumably don't have any ideological axe to grind with the British nowadays.
Presumably the Chomsky book has a whole lot of citations if he follows his normal practice.
You can find plenty more on the topic at Google.
There was a Bremner, Bird and Fortune program called "Between Iraq and a Hard Place" several years ago where it compared 1920's British policy to Iraq and the 2000's US policy to Iraq. Very funny and very sad at the same time. A very British perspective on Iraq.