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LevinK on October 3, 2006 - 2:09pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Well now it turns out that even children violence - a result of decades of loss of social cohesion, proper education, individualism, egocentrism etc. will also be put in this ridiculous R-D frame. Of course if democrats win they will fix it overnight, right? Good luck then.
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eric blair on October 3, 2006 - 5:39pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
will also be put in this ridiculous R-D frame.

Has the hyprocracy of Mr. Foley hit a nerve with you?  Did you believe he cared?   Did you believe that he had the interest of childern at heart when he was drafting laws to 'protect the childern'?  

Pehaps you thought when Mr. Foley said "it's vile" you felt the older man in power - younger woman dynamic was vile, not the male-female dynamic.

"It's vile," said Rep. Mark Foley, R-West Palm Beach. "It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction."

http://www.sptimes.com/Worldandnation/91298/Congress_sees_through.html

For you to even CLAIM "ridiculous R-D frame." shows your filter on the world needs adjusting.   If I thought spending any more time on you would adjust your filter, I would bother.

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LevinK on October 3, 2006 - 6:52pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
In case it is not clear - you are the one that put a certain filter on the interpretation of the problem we are facing. If you don't find anything wrong with it, then so be it - it comes to a matter of taste in the end.

BTW and for the record I have always supported the Democrats and I don't see that changing.

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OilLearner on October 3, 2006 - 6:06pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
If it gets "put in this ridiculous R-D frame" it is only following a well-established tradition.

When Susan Smith confessed to drowning her two children in a South Carolina lake, Congressman Newt Gingrich was quick to blame the Democrats. Campaigning Saturday, November 5, 1994 in his home state of Georgia he said:

"I think that the mother killing the two children in South Carolina vividly reminds every American how sick the society is getting and how much we have to have change. I think people want to change and the only way you get change is to vote Republican. That's the message for the last three days."

His statement was quickly picked up and repeatedly replayed by the national media. See here and here.

In May, 1955 on Meet the Press host Tim Russert asked Gingrich to defend his statements linking Susan Smiths's actions to the Democrats. Gingrich refused to back down. "Why do we have all these problems we didn't have in 1955?" he asked Russert. Gingrich then went on to blame America's post-1955 social decay on "a long pattern of counterculture belief . . . deep in the Democratic Party" that had "undervalued the family" and "consistently favored alternative life styles."

Full text link is here.

Somehow, the old adage about reaping what you sow keeps coming to mind.  

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OilLearner on October 3, 2006 - 6:07pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
The date for the Meet The Press interview should have been "May, 1995". Old eyes don't preview as well as they should.
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LevinK on October 3, 2006 - 6:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
One type of stupidity does not justify another
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eric blair on October 4, 2006 - 11:32am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
The R-D frame:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn7qCzV5sNM

Fox labeling Foley a Democrat
It appears briefly at the start of this YouTube video.

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