WOW!!  you are like nostradamus .....vague

How much and how fast.  The price has always and always will go up and down.  You pick a date 1 week from now and say after that it may go up at some time....safe bet.

There is a poster on here that pegged the cost at $57 per barrel in October/November back in August.

This was when prices were skyhigh and basically everyone was telling him he was wrong. Damn prescient of him.

I can't remember his name right now, but you can find his old posts on here.

SelfAggrandizedTrader?  You people are beating a dead horse.  Ouch.

As for my August prediction, my close personal friend whose opinions I respect very deeply, CryWolf, is insisting that oil must close at $57 per barrel on November 15th, his son's birthday, for my prediction to be considered accurate.  I asked him if, "by November 15th" shouldn't be considered to mean, "on or before November 15th," but he was very firm in insiting that, "in England, 'by' means 'on'," so please, hold your apple sauce.  As CryWolf also made very clear, "You people better toe the line, otherwise we won't consider you our subjects anymore," so I think we better do what he says.  Remember, this is the same person who is insisting that everyone give out canned tuna for Halloween, as a, "peak oil awareness gimick."      

On a lighter note, what's the deal with the guy down the thread who confuses me with Oil CEO (when sober)?  When was Oil CEO ever sober?  I don't remember hearing about that.  Leannan must have missed that one.

As for my own birthday bash, I've decided only to invite women this year, but only women of below average intelligence, which rules out all TODers.  So don't bother trying to crash the party.

That's not fair. I've been sober several times. I'm having my colonel gather the dates right now. Kevembuagga and I have to catch last call. We'll see you in the morning. I want to go to sleep, but he says we've got to go see these hookers in La Paz. God rest my soul.
Is the tuna supposed to be packed in water, or is it still ok to have it in oil, only with a 99% water cut?
But for now, I stand by my charts.  Watch and weep:  Oil will pull back to the high 50's by mid-november.  This fairly rapid pullback (which, by the way, will occur regarless of insignificant, "news," i.e. pipeline explosions, hurricanes, Iran war, etc.) will be followed by a resumption of the long term bull market for oil and other commodities which will last for approximately another decade.    

I'm a cocky bastard and as I write this I feel like that big buck standing out in the field, everyone's taking shots at him but he just won't go down.

SAT August 3rd 2006

Yep SAT - you definitley said by mid-November. 15th was your birthday too I seem to recall?

So, most important question - you still listening to your music?  Oil CEO - that invisible Bostonian, doesn't listen to Leonard Cohen - can you imagine?

Canned tuna....mmmm?

Enjoy your party - I see you're inviting ploiticians.

CW

Music?  See here.
SAT - thanks for that.  Since I started full time contributing at TOD I just don't have time to follow Drumbeat and most of the other chat.  I got about six posts under prep right now - its a lot of work - so I appreciate you keeping me posted.

I always feel most comfortable combining charts with what is going on in the real world and here's my take on that for what it is worth:

  • Underlying strength of oil price is due to narrow / tight spare capacity, and my feeling is that is here to stay - peak oil.

  • Hurricanes last year, and expectation of more hurricanes this year led to the price getting over extended - though I didn't understand that at the time.

  • >>$60 is burning off demand in some developing countries, who in a few years time will no longer be importing any oil, but will be exporting increasing amounts of violence.

  • I suspect some market manipulation ahead of US elections, and wonder if your mid-November date was not in part based on resumption of normal business once the election is out of the way.

  • These factors, combined with lack of huricanes this year are the real world reasons for the decline in oil price.

  • Lower prices mean that the poorer countries may re-enter the market.

  • Lower prices may also mean capacity destruction in the OECD.  The oil majors, setting budgets as we speak, will be more cautious now than if the oil price were over $80 and heading north.

  • So at some point, the price becomes irresistably cheap, bottom is reached and we start again.

  • I will post in a few days on Chinese, US and EU demand trends to comapre with LADS export land trends - and I imagine that these two trends are heading in opposite directions - hence the developing world getting squeezed out of the market.

$67 and few cents as I write.

PS - in Boston I saw 2 or three charts of rig count and gas production, US and other parts where it was clear that the battle to maintain production is being lost.  There is little doubt in my mind that a full blown energy crisis is at the door.  If drilling was stopped, production would crater - and that is because all the natural reservoir energy has been used up - oil and gas is no longer pissing out of the ground at 50,000+ boepd / well anywhere.

I'll be checking out Leonard today.

How was your stay? I still owe you lunch. Just because I'm invisible doesn't mean I'm not here.

What bar were you guys drinking in? I couldn't place the roof beams. Who were those shady figures behind the Girls gone Wild?

It took me 5 minutes to track down Dave Cohen and Nate Hagens on the Wenesday evening who both, like me, were dressed in anti-establishment leather jackets and jeans.

It took a further 24 hours to track down my UK editor Chris Vernon - who was wearing a suit - that's what rank and social standing does.

So it is a tricky thing looking for someone when you don't know what they look like and probably don't know their name.

The reviews for the Buckminster put me off a bit to I went a bit up market and stayed at the Hampton on Massachusetes Avenue.  But we were in the bar in front of the Buckminster every evening.  The babes, by the way are part of Dave's sick humour - the ones round our table were much better looking than that.

Cry Wolf will soon get shot - and I will start posting under my real name, Lee Raymond.

Kudos for a great call. Would you like to call the next high? Imagine the credit for getting two calls in a row... And, do you have an opinion on ng?

Peak Tuna? Heh.


Anyway, I remembered your first post because it was bodacious, then it stuck in my nut as we dropped from the '70s into the high 50's. (57.64 as I write) Mad props, SAT.


 
You are thinking of Oil CEO who is the total opposite of Fleam.  (when sober)
Yeah, I'm good. You stuck a fucking crystal spike through his heart. But this muthafucka walks. You know that. I've been trying to recruit him for (months).

ORM. You know I have always had the highest respect for you. I have never moved forward without it. I've never considered medics less then armor. Never understood why US military has never understood this.

Signing off for ten minutes. Us Bostonians are the toughest in the fight. I wish I could mention her name. We all know where she is. We all know what she has been doing for years.

It scares her parents to death.

That's why we love you. You are making all the difference.

Oil, LOL i don't no what code you are writing in but you may have inadvertantly activated a terrorist cell somewhere....
matt