101 comments on ASPO-USA: Support for Global Energy Flow modelling and a Net Energy database
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Nate, I think this is the diagram that Cutler said he didn't fully understand at ASPO. And I'm not sure what it means either - if anything. I suspect the proximity of spatial area of current fuel sources with our urban / industrial infrastructure may just be a coincidence. Like wise, is it really a problem that renewable energy sources are spatially "less dense" at point of harvesting?
Having said that, it is worth noting the position of Hydro - is that the size of the lake or the catchment area that is plotted. One thing for sure, we couldn't power ourselves just on Hydro in the UK - just not enough height and gradient.
WRT to wind (shoot me now) I guess the question is how many turbines do you need - and what area would be required to host these - is there enough space? Certainly should be if the off shore is used. But I know that there is problem in west Denmark with the intrusion of turbines.
In terms of upgrading wind power (shoot me again) I see that as strategies for delivering a stable grid - balancing and storage - and we need expert electrical engineering input to answer that.
We should remember the very low cost of pumped storage: only .6 cents per kwhr. Why wasn't this used before? Because natural gas was so cheap, and worked so well for handling intermittent/peak loads. Nat gas has only been recognized as expensive and limited for a very, very short time.
Anyway, here is some real data. From the IEA:
http://www.iea.org/textbase/papers/2005/variability.pdf
From an actual electrical engineering journal (requires registration):
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/may06/3544/3
a serious study in Ireland:
http://www.sei.ie/index.asp?locID=330&docID=-1
and from a technical working group of actual power engineers:
http://www.uwig.org/IntegrationStateoftheArt.htm