The other half is the unfortunate combination of a housing bubble coinciding with a collapse of lending standards

In Ohio, we didn't really see much of a boom in real estate and so we've avoided a bust. Home prices are just flat.  I guess that's one good thing about living in a dull state to which no one would reloacte unless they had to.  Anyway, there are a lot of these neighborhoods where people were given loans they never should have received.  The problem of unloading these forclosed homes is exacerbated by the fact that the builders are still building the exact same house in the next phase of the development.  Who wants to buy a 2 or 3 year old foreclosed home when you can buy the exact same home brand new.  the thing that puzzles me about it is that with the most obnoxious lending practices, the builder is also the lender.  Ohio has laws forbidding these predatory type loans but has an exception when it is "for sale by owner", so these big builders build 10's of thousands of homes then they act as the bank when it sells so that it can be FSBO and they can avoid these laws.  So what i don't understand is how they can continue to give out these loans and hold all these forclosed homes.  They're not screwing the bank, bc/ they are the bank, they're screwing themselves.  Any real estate moguls here that explain to me what I'm missing here?

I think that they are reselling these mortgages on the secondary market (HUGE BTW).  Perhaps indicidual mortgages ocasionally, but typically, every couple of months they package them up, perhaps through Fannie or Ginnie Mae, and sell the package.

You, as an individual, can buy a small $100,000 slice of a Ginnie Mae.  China is one of the big buyers (higher yield than US T-Bills).  I am unsure of the sophisicated methods of reducing risk (they are there) and layering defaults. (One can buy the last xx% of value in a portfolio, so that mortgage losses hit those that hold the upper layers).

Hope this helps,

Alan

BTW, Housing bubble burst is good for New Orleans.  Should drive down cost of materials and we will get migrant construction workers.

Alan, yea that makes sense.  It also makes it all the more perverse.  They avoid the anti-predatory lending laws by selling as a "for sale by owner" then immediately dump the loans into the secondary market.  Brilliant!  I should have been a banker!  (not really, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I made a living doing crap like that.)
Oh and they don't securitize these packaged loans every few months.  There is a market out there that satsifies this demand every single day.  This is how Fannie Mae/Mac are now on the hook for something like over 40% of the total market and over 60% of the sub prime market.  I would love to get updates on those numbers though as they are about 6 mos old and from memory.  
The migrant construction worker thing is an odd phenomenon- they have it down to a science.  My in-laws are owner-operators of an RV park in central ohio.  20 minutes after the start of a bad hail storm, construction workers (mostly roofers) started calling, by 30 minutes after the storm ended every spot at the park was filled by migrant construction workers.  Now almost 2 months after the storm they're still full of migrant workers (and insurance adjusters!).  But I wonder why are there so many idle migrant construction workers sitting around watching the weather channel for the next job (most of them are from the carolinas and georgia) with the market in LA, TX and MS the way it is?

I know, I know- just save your comments about the cost of RV'ing and the future of RV parks.  My in-laws are doing very well right now and they're in their 60's.  They just need to make it a few more years then they'll retire.  Irrespective of PO, no one in the younger generation is willing to take over the family business from them when they retire.

Phineas it does not sound like such a bad business model for someone who's handy. Get a smallish motorhome, and go around doing the work. You can often camp on city streets if you're crafty, and even here in Silicon Valley I've found odd little encampments of people living in motorhomes...... like the hobo jungles of old, they're neat and probably really frown on any activities that would create trouble and raise their profile. Motorhomes are expensive to fuel, but out on the Interstate, there's always a truck to draft off of.....
You know ... I read a book a while back but I'm having a hard time remembering the author or title.  It was about bubbles, and irrational exuberance.  If I'm remembering correctly the author grouped housing bubble cities as "international."  Cities with big airports?

I think his idea was that people in or around the international business community was more caught up in this thing than others.

(I think it was "Irrational Exuberance" by Robert Shiller.  I see that I talked about the book here back in March.)

There is also:
A Short History of Financial Euphoria
by Galbraith which is worth the read IMO

Read this one for the process.  Really good I think.  Here is just a snippet.

If These Are Bubbles, Where Is All That Hot-Air Money Coming From?

November 25, 2006  by Katy Delay


Securitization is a fabulous tool invented by the financial industry to survive and evolve under existing banking regulations.  As they were first envisioned, these transactions had -- and still have -- great potential as a safety net to insure healthy lender risk.  Unfortunately, and probably through lack of experience, the financial community has let them evolve into a monstrous money-making machine. Here's how it works.

  1.  A bank receives deposits, and its function is to lend that money out at a profit.  (We won't go into fractional reserve banking here, although this multiplies the problem when things go awry.  For now, however, let's just assume the bank lends a fixed multiple of what it takes in.)

  2.  The bank (or other type of financial institution with access to funds) finds good borrowers with at least a decent credit score to whom they lend the money for purchases, say for a house, a car, or whatever the borrower fancies.

  3.  Instead of following up on the repayments through their own loan department like they used to, the banks now transfer those loans to an agency that will fulfill this task.  At the same time, they package the loans according to the degree of risk, and then they sell the loans to the general marketplace.

  4.  The buyers of these packaged loans can then buy "insurance" to cover the risk, from individuals and companies who want to assume that risk for a price (a piece of the interest action) and who are supposedly able to come up with the cash should a default occur.  So far so good.

  5.  The bank now no longer has any loans on the books, so it is free to make a second set of loans based on the same fractional-reserve multiple of the deposits it holds -- but this time in effect using 100% of the loan-package buyers' funds to do so, i.e. so far, this is still a good thing; but as we'll see, it's good only up to a point.

  6.  As you can imagine, this doubling, tripling or quadrupling of loans allows for an expansion of the lending industry; and the market pool of good borrowers (and the good borrowers' credit appetite) eventually maxes out.  To palliate this inconvenience, and since the bank is no longer shouldering the risk from its own loans, the bank now lowers the bar for borrowing so that those with a lower credit score may become borrowers. This expansion has presently extended into what some believe is dangerous territory; but this is only half of the problem.

  7.  The other half occurs when the buyers of these packaged loans either do so with what is called leveraging, i.e. they buy on credit themselves; or they sell these loans to others who do the leveraging.  Hedge funds, for example, have sometimes been a source of unwisely leveraged funds that are not yet under industry control.  And hedge funds are very popular these days.

  8.  According to Doug, much of the credit risk involved at this higher level is also "insured" in the same manner as in Stage 4, only this time the insurers never actually pay for the loans they are "insuring."  As with real "insurance," they only need to pay in case of default.  And this so-called "credit derivative" process is repeated over and over again, in effect allowing the loan-package insurers to borrow to the degree of the "insurance" market's willingness to take on risk.

http://www.prudentbear.com/archive_comm_article.asp?category=Guest+Commentary&content_idx=60572

 John

When I was much younger, I was amazed at how the compounded interest of a mortgage payment multiplied the total $$ paid back to the bank. Now, at every layer of re-selling this loan, every institution skims off a profit and passes on the loan to someone else, effectively increasing the debt at every level. The top level seems to always be some government agency or government supported agency like FannieMae or FreddieMac.

All this means to me is that when things unravel, the poor, regressively taxed taxpayer gets saddled with the bill from bailing out the fed. agencies (S&L crisis writ large), at the same time they are on the street because their over-financed home has been repo'd. Kind of like the Dragon swallowing its tail here.

More exactly,  I would say that PENSION funds are the ones who buy into it.  

SOOOOO,   Joe Sixpack walks on his house, foreclosure.
THEN the Pension funds where Joe works/used to work,  now have losses because of foreclosure.

Joe has no pension, because the pensions bought the securitized bonds.

In essence,  Joe's purchase of the house he can't afford, ruins his pension fund.

A recent post that I wrote about Credit-Default Swaps and the impact of such credit derivatives on structural stability of the global economy.  It goes much farther than just mortgages--all borrowing is subject to this credit derivative process:

Financial Wizardry & Collapse