But how to do that when you start by saying The Country being Threatened is to blame?  

If the Radical Islamic Army next threatens France, Germany etc  - do you blame France, Germany, etc for  (I think they look, smell, taste, etc and even worship the same godz... harder to abandon maybe)?

 You are right. And, on the day it ended, the world  inventory of nukes was 0; we were out. And the 3 which had been exploded  were pretty small....

From a high of 65,000 active weapons in 1985, there were about 20,000 active nuclear weapons in the world in 2002. Many of the "decommissioned" weapons were simply stored or partially dismantled, not destroyed.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

 An all out war would be TEOTWAWKI

Ben Dover@KissRat'sAssGoodbye.com

Scenario:
Israel nukes southern Lebanon
A head of the Pakistani intelligence service decides to sell nukes to Syria as revenge (seeing how Syria's got to deal with the fallout)
Syria hits Jerusalem
Israel reflexively nukes every target it has in the Middle East, making the Qa'ba as radioactive as a reactor core.
Pakistan hits back at Israel
India's drawn in with justification to attack Pakistan

All without three of the most belligerent entities - Al Qaeda, North Korea, or the United States - doing a thing.

Then those scientists are idiots.  The U.S. alone did at least 331 atmospheric tests.  There were probably twice that many world wide last century.  A few atomic bombs set off by terrorists, iran, israel, etc., will have zero long term impact outside of the detonation zone.

The only way nuclear weapons can pose a global threat would be if the US and Russia decide to shoot their entire arsenals at each other.  I put the chance of that happening at about the same odds as finding out that the abiotic oil theory is correct.

The germans did not know about the treatment of the Jews?

Go to the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. Near the pit where the Jewish drawf is shown on video screens 'sawn in half' to be studied(in a pit for its too horrific to all any to see that don't wish to). Near that pit is a simple map with all the concentration camps and prisons in Germany highlighted with a red dot.

I stood there next to an officer who was there in WWII and though the whole musuem was filled with silence he couldn't keep quiet. He looked at the map and had a huge problem and starting yelling about how they HAD TO KNOW,,they just HAD TO KNOW for the map was unbelievabley full of massive numbers of red dots.

That officer knew the truth then. He only found the truth there in that quiet tomb of a museum.

I challenge anyone to visit it entirely and then castigate the Jews. Any takers? You will not exit as you came in.

I walked by the nail scared bunks, the actual bunks made of wood the Jews laid in and died. I touched the scared wood where their nails had raked it with pain and agony.

I couldn't swallow for a long time afterwards. These were innocent people and today they ask but to live alone.

Nah...the terrrorists want the dead and we just watch and bitch about them defending themselves.

Shame on us.

Go to the museum and then tell me about it.

I was in DC that day helping my son pack his office to move back to St. Louis and out of DC. That was the day and he wanted to stay but I said , "lets get in that car and get the hell back over the mountains and home to kentucky"..One day later I saw the towers burning back on the farm. We were sitting next to the Pentagon on our way out of DC.

Thats how close it was. Then chaos stalked our land and we got a taste of reality brought home by Islamic Terrorists and now we all bitch cause we are in their lands and taking the fight to them.

You know on this site I find a lot of people who like to bitch about MY country. The USA. Sure they have the right to but I want to state that not everyone who is an American is an asshole or a conspicious consumer or a big fat ass oil consuming jerk.

This is my country. Stolen from the Natives for sure just like all the rest of the 'civilized' countries did as well.

Just as the English came here and started the process. How about blaming them for starting it then? Huh?

All this anger against the USA just because you don't like Bush or his policies? Well he will be gone shortly and we will elect a new batch and I submit that everyone will bitch about them just as much.

I still believe in my country, if we can make it thru the dieoff. We used to be a great people and nation. I submit that a bunch of candyass yuppies took the wrong path and , as S. King puts it so well, "Forgot the face of their fathers".

Airdale--try to give the USA a break here. After all didn't we come to your aid(Europe)once when all was just about lost? This generation of vipers will pass on to the dustbins of history. Those of us who can survive will do so. The future is cloudy. We all need to scream and yell about the outrageous issues. For Gods Sake we have just about killed all the f**cking fish in the oceans? Do you think the USA did that by themselves? Think about it? All the fish gone. What kind of idiots can do this?

Bitch about Bush and the politicos all you want. I am not a politican. I am a farmer and a retired IBM staff programmer. I am not responsible for the idiot. I will vote as lead and don't care what other countries think or want. Its my country.