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Francois on December 18, 2006 - 10:39am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
The psychology of Peak Oil awareness and other "deep" subjects like religion and politics is a fascinating study in itself. People often lash out at the messenger when confronted with data that conflicts with their internal worldview. Dont take any of that personally - you have hundreds of people like me that read yours posts with a lot of attention - we always learn something.

BTW - which mountain were you up on? :-)

Francois

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Robert Rapier on December 18, 2006 - 10:42am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Francois,

I am in the mountains directly west of Colorado Springs, near Pike's Peak. On Saturday, we climbed Mt. Arthur, and I hope my pictures turn out well. I am flying back to Montana this evening, and I should have a pair of posts in the queue right after that. I think my conversations over the past few days with my host will spark some discussion here.

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wstephens on December 18, 2006 - 11:17am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I second Francois' post re data on certain subjects.
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Dragonfly41 on December 18, 2006 - 11:33am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
My brother has relatives in Chipita Park and I love hiking around Green Mountain Falls.  Were you close to this location?
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Robert Rapier on December 18, 2006 - 11:52am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
My host says we are about 10 miles from those locations as the crow flies.
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Dragonfly41 on December 18, 2006 - 1:29pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Beautiful country...enjoy!!
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folsomman on December 18, 2006 - 1:32pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
"People often lash out at the messenger when confronted with data that conflicts with their internal worldview."

It might be instructive to take a look at the usenet newsgroup "sci.physics" some time.  It once had a reasonable signal-to-noise ratio and was often informative.  Over time, it attracted a great number of quirky posters and some real lunatics--to the point where it often seems to contain little more than bizarre theories and flame wars.  And that's over such controversies as relativity and quantum mechanics.  If (when?) people become widely and deeply concerned about peak oil--so that it really threatens their worldview--I'm afraid EVERYTHING we've seen so far on TOD will seem quaintly genteel and polite.

Mark Folsom

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ggg71 on December 18, 2006 - 3:16pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

This may be an egaltarian view, but if/when Peak Oil becomes mainstream, the only real solution will be to cut off membership at somepoint, with new viewers only allowed a read only role at the site.  Kitco had to do this with their old gold forum.  Either that or admins will have to resort to heavy moderation.

Just my opinion - from 14+ years on the net.

Garth

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Leanan on December 18, 2006 - 3:20pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Or we'll have to go the dKos/Slashdot "community rating" route.
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AlphaMaleProphetOfDoom on December 19, 2006 - 1:24am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Or you hire a couple female mods to slap the taste out the mouth of anybody who causes trouble!
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AlphaMaleProphetOfDoom on December 19, 2006 - 1:23am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
You know, whereever you stand on these issues, a documentary on the psychological responses people have to this stuff and the archetypes attracted to this info would be quite fascinating.
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