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sendoilplease on December 3, 2006 - 3:37pm Permalink | Subthread | Comments top
Good luck Jason.  

I know exactly what you mean by "My attitude ... summed up as pissed off, fearful, and self righteous... and I'll probably ask for forgiveness later, something I am well practiced at."  Although I think I will be getting more practice at that forevermore (quote the raven).

Even our little Locales are full of roadblocks and like you describe, many eminate from the parasites we call state and federal gubermint, as well as well-entrenched business interests who are more concerned with getting their fat pay-check than the mess they leave behind or the mess we are already in up to our necks.

Too bad so many local authorities are like those of New Orleans - even when they are well aware of the problem before hann they abrogate the responsibility they were elected and/or paid for and hope for a Nipple from the fed or state AFTER the fact... titbabies.

At least you have a few like-minded individuals to work with locally.  Maybe an off-grid cabin in the deep woods is a good plan C...

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eric blair on December 3, 2006 - 5:24pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
blah blah blah, goverment (oh sorry gubermint) spending  blah blah blah titbabies blah blah blah

And then people make more demnads of the governments 'oh please stop the evil over there!'  

The public pool of funds for public projects is not unlimited.   Yet, some people who decry public spending with words like 'titbabies' are the 1st to want THEIR pet project 'taken care of'      
(some debate there should be no public pool anyway)

When one asks for something to be done, its amazing how many times the follow up questions like how it will be paid for arn't asked.  Or asking for open records and a willingness to question who's getting paid how much for what they are doing.

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DelusionaL on December 3, 2006 - 8:46pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
and mass delusion?5

Hey wait a minute...I thought I was the only one.  
You mean to tell me there are more out there who think they can have thier cake and eat it too?  Pay for projects?  Who me?  No way!  I vote for whoever supplies the biggest warmest titty I can get my mouth on.  Oh Dolly baby I'm yours.

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sendoilplease on December 3, 2006 - 10:05pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
More ignorant ranting about something you know nothing about.
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Jason Bradford on December 4, 2006 - 1:53am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
The actual letter we sent is not included above.  Here it is:

http://willits.postcarbon.org/files/well/WELLCityBypassLetter1106.pdf

I have had nobody deny any tidbit of truth in this letter, but quite a few have suggested it is not wise to fight this, suggesting that even polite discussion of the bypass gets you in trouble politically.  I am not convinced of this.  I think seasoned politicians will listen to people they don't agree with as long as they are honest, check their facts carefully, and don't act like a jerk.  In politics, everyone has a disagreement with someone, sometime, but people still have to work together.  

Given that construction is not scheduled to start until 2010 and finish till 2013, I actually don't think this will happen.  Of course this is based on my view of the economy, which is probably not generally shared. There's a chance it will get started and then run out of resources at some point, leaving us a terrific mess.

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sendoilplease on December 4, 2006 - 1:44pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
"and don't act like a jerk."

That is the hardest part - I have a hard time being patient and not acting like a jerk because of the lack of time and lack of local awareness of Peak Energy.

"Given that construction is not scheduled to start until 2010 and finish till 2013,"

If they are not planning on breaking ground on your project before 2010 I think you are right that it's not likely they will ever get it started.  But that's my doomer view and my timing may be off by a few years.

In my locale they want to build a frontage road across my and my neighbor's properties where they intersect a major regional highway.  My guess is like yours - we will run out of the resources (including tax revenues necessary) long before it gets off the ground or can be finished.  The momentum for the project is too great to stop it or refine it now.

My neighbors are upset by the planz.  I guess I don't mind.  The frontage road will be perfect for a "farmers market" stand on my property.  And hopefully The Highway will eventually become a good light-rail system (ala Alan from the bigeasy) and be good for my children's little business.

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