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Gets IT on February 20, 2006 - 2:05pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
All crap stupid justifications for stupid actions. The original came out for revenge against precieved or real threats. What has tit for tat revenge ever done to help a situation?. This is just a blood fued. If the west truely was of superior intelligence and tolerane, rather than just trying to sell newspapers, I'm sure they could find some other way to "treat them equally". Now its all about freedom of the press. What crap! No newspaper can publish pictures of underage pornstars, so where's our freedom of the press? Its all a matter of judgement, isn't it? No doubt there are other reasons that are manifesting themselves in these riots, for which I would urge the newspapers to investigate and publisize and offer concrete solutions to their respective governments for correcting all of them that they can, instead of continuing to try to keep the fire going just to sell more toilet paper for fuel.
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skylar on February 20, 2006 - 2:57pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Well said Gets It.

The hypocrisy is just too transparent:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060220/ap_on_re_eu/austria_holocaust_denial

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Gets IT on February 20, 2006 - 6:41pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Thanks. Here's another example. David Irving gets jail time in Austria for simply denying the Holocaust ever happened. First, please let me say, this is NOT MHO. I believe it did happen and I have all symphathy for Jews everywhere as well as Palestinians. Somebody tell me the logic behind agreeing that depicting the Islamic Prophet Mohamad in "poor taste" is freedom of the press, when this man can't print, say, or believe that the holocaust never existed? Likewise, I don't personally that freedom of speech allows Muslim radicals to call for beheading the cartoonists for doing such a thing either, but I do understand why they are upset. http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2006/01/30/news/world/dfcb6265054e312787257104000ffcfc.txt 30 Jan VIENNA, Austria -- Right-wing British historian David Irving, who has been jailed in Austria pending trial next month on charges of denying the Holocaust occurred, has been writing his memoirs and receiving fan mail, his lawyer said Friday. I'm not saying this shouldn't be a sensitive issue, but I do object to the inconsistancy between how the west treats these things and others in relation to Islam, and I am aware of how the Islamic world sees this example and comes to the conclusions that they do. Wise up guys. If the west was half as worried about being "politically correct" with the rest of the worlds occupants as they are about being politically correct with Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, Jews and Women, the Muslims wouldn't be able to find too terribly much to bicker about .... other than an illegal WAR! Answers are not to be found in printing rubbish to sell newspapers and calling it freedom of the press or freedom of speech. Turn your cheek and get on with starting to understand your neighbours. If you make the attempt, they will respond. Military action, flaming the Prophet, JC or your sister and the rest of your family tree and yelling freedom allows us to do that doesn't help anyone understand the situation, nor help anybody who does not have freedom understand why they should want it. Cheez! Is it so complex?
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skylar on February 20, 2006 - 7:15pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Gets IT

I share your sentiments not Irvings.

My reason for posting the link was to show that the "Freedom of the Press" is routinely censored either by law or voluntarily; for reasons of decorum, politics, historic legacy or even domestic tranquility.

To say this cartoon episode is an exercise in freedom is nonsense. It's at least profiteering and possibly incitement. On all sides!

Would any main stream publication in America reprint scurilous cartoons -- printed in Denmark -- of say, Martin Luther King and purport to be acting in solidarity with press freedoms?

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Gets IT on February 20, 2006 - 8:34pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
No worries. I got it. I'm just offering the rest of the folks another <this time extreme> example to over-emphisize how unfair treatment is and on how sensitive the west manages to be towards Jewish concerns when totally ignoring those of Islam, or IMHO even worse, as treating Islamic indignity as complete nonsense and totally of no reasonable concern or possibe consequence as they ask where their sense of humor is. They do nothing when an insult is hurled towards Islam, but arrest this guy and give him 3 years for simplying denying the Holocaust existed. I'm constantly amazed at the inconsistancies of western law and the ease of convenience in how it can be perverted, twisted and turned and applied so unequally. Where is integrity? Certainly not in western law.
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Don Sailorman on February 20, 2006 - 9:27pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Fallacy of questionable analogy. Irving was trying Orwellian changing of history. The cartoon printed in Denmark had a legitimate satirical purpose in pointing out the GREAT TRUTH that terrorisim is an utter and complete and 100% perversion of Islam.
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