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175 comments on John Tierney's brilliant energy plan
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There are of course some things that we really truly need to survive. Food, water, shelter, clothing are the basics needed just to keep the body alive - things like companionship and friendship would be needed by most people.
When energy prices go up, and people will have to go without, they will still remember and miss the things that they used to own and the things they used to do, and they would resent the fact that this is no longer possible. People would be inclined to reach for anything to keep things going so that they don't have to give up their material things.
My thinking is that there needs to be a fundamental shift in thinking so that quality of life is measured in entirely different ways. If we can reach a point where many of the materialistic and consumeristic urges are gone from our lives, then giving up material things up is no longer a hardship. In fact, it can be liberating in the sense that having stuff that you no longer want or need is a nuisance.
Such a change does run against human nature to a degree, but I believe that many of the wants and desires are planted in our minds by the media. For that matter, I doubt that most people could make such a change overnight - it will take a while to unlearn consumerism.
A non-materialistic society would seem to be incompatible with a capitalistic society. Right now with growth being an economic requirement, there is almost a need for people to buy more crap each and every year in order to keep the whole thing humming along. I have seen other comments here where people suggest that a new economic paradigm is needed - the problem is that nobody really knows quite what it is going to look like.
That is going to be long and slow. I spend a lot of time on home theater forums (a very fun hobby which I will miss tremendously). There are a bunch of very smart, very knowledgeable people on these forums. However, almost uniformely, they spend an amazing amount of time talking about advancements in the future, how much prices will go down, what the equipment will be like in 5 or 10 years. It is almost sad to think about what a shock the future is likely to be to these guys.
They could then recover some of the cost by selling tickets...
It wont be home theater any more, but small scale theater.
And it would generate social capital for them.